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Post by daves on Jul 27, 2024 12:02:24 GMT
Looking at the more recent "premium" smartphones I see a lot of them make a "thing" of their cameras, I'm thinking especially of the Xiomi 14 Ultra (Other bankrupting phones are available) with its leica optics and optional "photographers kit" which includes a filter ring (But missing the obligatory red dot).
So what are peoples' thoughts on the matter (Assuming anybody's given it any thought).
I'm minded of the adge that "the best camera is the one you have with you", and a phone is something most people will have in their pockets or handbags. These camera phones can, it appears, do a good job of replacing the (Now obsolete?) compact cameras of yore.
I'm putting this in General Discussion but Martin may want to consign it to one of the more remote regions of the forum
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Post by JohnY on Jul 27, 2024 12:16:19 GMT
I tend to keep cameras for many years. Phone operating systems need support so as to frustrate hacker's malware. The phone manufactures use planned obsolescence to maintain sales of new phones. I use the camera on my smart phone but I would not buy a phone for a state of the art camera that would need replacing after only 3 years.
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Post by zou on Jul 27, 2024 12:25:27 GMT
If I had the money I'd still get a GR over a phone as a photographic device. The quality is absolutely there in phones now - not just the high end ones - but the UI, speed, and experience still cannot match a dedicated camera for my purposes.
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Post by willien on Jul 27, 2024 13:01:21 GMT
My current phone is a Samsung S21 Ultra bought second hand at one year old for less than half the new price. The cameras are good. Nevertheless, for pictures I would prefer a good compact. In addition it is huge which is a damn nuisance. Not sure which way I will jump when it runs out of security updates it will depend partly on what on the market at the time. As I use phone banking I will not use it after these updates stop despite having proprietory security SW as well.
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Post by daves on Jul 27, 2024 15:03:31 GMT
Yeah, the planned obsolescence of the OS is something of a concern with a £1300 phone. The photographer's kit for the Xiaomi does give it a more camera feel according to the reviews I've seen.
Maybe I should stick with this old One Plus 8 hours until it's no longer supported, but the cameras on the 14 Ultra are very tempting 🤷♀️
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Post by andy on Jul 27, 2024 17:31:29 GMT
Camera phones might be fine for landscapes and tourist snaps but they, without exception it seems, are shite for action.
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Post by willien on Jul 27, 2024 17:37:43 GMT
Camera phones might be fine for landscapes and tourist snaps but they, without exception it seems, are shite for action. Yep. Shutter delay sucks. |
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Post by John Farrell on Jul 27, 2024 18:43:39 GMT
I've never considered using a phone as a camera - I don't own a smartphone.
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Post by daves on Jul 27, 2024 19:04:52 GMT
Camera phones might be fine for landscapes and tourist snaps but they, without exception it seems, are shite for action. Since I don't do action photos that's OK by me. I'm much more likely to be doing landscape or even close up photos, or else putting the camera on my little star tracker for WA astro photos. |
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Post by dreampolice on Jul 27, 2024 19:10:53 GMT
@mjb we got bingo going on this thread?
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Post by andy on Jul 27, 2024 19:14:58 GMT
@mjb we got bingo going on this thread? I hear it's popular with old wummin  |
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Post by willien on Jul 27, 2024 19:44:11 GMT
@mjb we got bingo going on this thread? I hear it's popular with old wummin Like Nige and Martin? |
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Post by spinno on Jul 27, 2024 19:57:52 GMT
I hear it's popular with old wummin Like Nige and Martin? Ooh get her! |
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Post by geoffr on Jul 27, 2024 20:19:06 GMT
Looking at the more recent "premium" smartphones I see a lot of them make a "thing" of their cameras, I'm thinking especially of the Xiomi 14 Ultra (Other bankrupting phones are available) with its leica optics and optional "photographers kit" which includes a filter ring (But missing the obligatory red dot). So what are peoples' thoughts on the matter (Assuming anybody's given it any thought). I'm minded of the adge that "the best camera is the one you have with you", and a phone is something most people will have in their pockets or handbags. These camera phones can, it appears, do a good job of replacing the (Now obsolete?) compact cameras of yore. I'm putting this in General Discussion but Martin may want to consign it to one of the more remote regions of the forum I’ve had several iPhones, currently using the 11, and I have even managed a few decent photographs with them but I wouldn’t have one as a main camera. There’s a place for the phone camera but mine will always be a long way behind my D5s. |
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Post by Ivor E Tower on Jul 27, 2024 20:26:08 GMT
Having a decent camera on your phone is one thing but IMHO paying a lot of money for the privelidge isn't worth it. For some years now I have bought my phone outright rather than paying £x per month extra on contract. £200 to £300 will get you something decent enough for general photos if you are not over-critical on zooming in to pixel level.... in fact these days even the sub-£100 smartphones will giove perfectly adequate results; I recently dicovered thatt hey can include features such as picture-in-picture (a small photo of you from the front-facing camera placed within the main photo from the rear camera) and a whols host of other "interesting" features too.... but they won't beat the IQ from an interchangeable lens camera not a decent P&S. Just look at the sensor size of most smartphones, for a start
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