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Post by Kath on Jul 29, 2024 8:55:19 GMT
I bought my current phone about four years ago because it was better at handling low light video than my DSLR. I rarely use the camera for stills other than snapshots or things I need to remember to buy later because I find keeping the phone still to get the composition I want almost impossible. I like a viewfinder rammed up against my face for the stability. At least with video I can bung it on a tripod/holder of sorts and keep it still. But for photos it's a no from me no matter how advanced the technology.
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Post by don on Jul 30, 2024 20:31:59 GMT
I have a fifteen year old iPhone handed down from family members and I have had it for about six years. I Don’t remember ever using it to take photos with
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Post by zx9 on Jul 31, 2024 9:20:57 GMT
I have a fifteen year old iPhone handed down from family members and I have had it for about six years. I Don’t remember ever using it to take photos with Give it a go, it will cost you nothing.
Though my 12pro has more lenses with a really wide angle and is technically better than my old 5S, the 5S took more pleasing photos.
So to not answer the OP's question, which I have been avoiding, it all depends what you want to do.
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Post by daves on Jul 31, 2024 9:35:19 GMT
Just so. I see a lot of "Luddite" comments "I don't have a smartphone", "I don't want a smartphone", "use a real camera (What is a "real" camera " etc, etc. With phone cameras improving all the time IMHO they are becoming a valid option for when one doesn't want to carry a full DSLR / mirrorless kit. Though that can drag one into the dreaded uograditis of waiting for the latest and "greatest" camera phone instead of getting something that's "good enough" for the time being.
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Post by dreampolice on Jul 31, 2024 10:03:41 GMT
Just so. I see a lot of "Luddite" comments "I don't have a smartphone", "I don't want a smartphone", "use a real camera (What is a "real" camera " etc, etc. With phone cameras improving all the time IMHO they are becoming a valid option for when one doesn't want to carry a full DSLR / mirrorless kit. Though that can drag one into the dreaded uograditis of waiting for the latest and "greatest" camera phone instead of getting something that's "good enough" for the time being. The problem is, most of the phones also allow you to watch TV and or stream things too. That is truly the work of the devil. A TV and a camera on a phone.
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Post by aitch on Jul 31, 2024 10:18:46 GMT
Just so. I see a lot of "Luddite" comments "I don't have a smartphone", "I don't want a smartphone", "use a real camera (What is a "real" camera " etc, etc. With phone cameras improving all the time IMHO they are becoming a valid option for when one doesn't want to carry a full DSLR / mirrorless kit. Though that can drag one into the dreaded uograditis of waiting for the latest and "greatest" camera phone instead of getting something that's "good enough" for the time being. The problem is, most of the phones also allow you to watch TV and or stream things too. That is truly the work of the devil. A TV and a camera on a phone. I'm waiting for the model that does everything... but they forget to put the 'phone part in it.
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Post by geoffr on Jul 31, 2024 10:26:08 GMT
Just so. I see a lot of "Luddite" comments "I don't have a smartphone", "I don't want a smartphone", "use a real camera (What is a "real" camera " etc, etc). With phone cameras improving all the time IMHO they are becoming a valid option for when one doesn't want to carry a full DSLR / mirrorless kit. Though that can drag one into the dreaded upgraditis of waiting for the latest and "greatest" camera phone instead of getting something that's "good enough" for the time being. A very brief look suggests that a "Premium" phone will cost around £1,000 but possibly much more. Put simply, I can buy quite a lot of compact or small mirrorless camera for £1,000, possibly considerably less. The smart phone camera has its place but, for me, it can't replace a dedicated camera.
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Post by MJB on Jul 31, 2024 10:27:32 GMT
I have a friend who sold A4 prints (street) for significant sums of money that were taken with an iPhone 6.
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Post by andy on Jul 31, 2024 10:53:17 GMT
The problem is, most of the phones also allow you to watch TV and or stream things too. That is truly the work of the devil. A TV and a camera on a phone. I'm waiting for the model that does everything... but they forget to put the 'phone part in it. Samsung have you covered there, well, depending upon which way the wind is blowing it might work sometimes. Am reminded of my last 2G smartphone, a t-mobile branded HTC, which had a really weedy ear speaker so it was pretty hopeless as a phone.
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Post by zx9 on Jul 31, 2024 11:16:21 GMT
I have a friend who sold A4 prints (street) for significant sums of money that were taken with an iPhone 6. A4 is easily doable from my 12 pro, if you look very close A3 can occasionally show a bit of banding in a clear blue sky when shooting jpg.
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Post by dreampolice on Jul 31, 2024 12:08:32 GMT
Just so. I see a lot of "Luddite" comments "I don't have a smartphone", "I don't want a smartphone", "use a real camera (What is a "real" camera " etc, etc). With phone cameras improving all the time IMHO they are becoming a valid option for when one doesn't want to carry a full DSLR / mirrorless kit. Though that can drag one into the dreaded upgraditis of waiting for the latest and "greatest" camera phone instead of getting something that's "good enough" for the time being. A very brief look suggests that a "Premium" phone will cost around £1,000 but possibly much more. Put simply, I can buy quite a lot of compact or small mirrorless camera for £1,000, possibly considerably less. The smart phone camera has its place but, for me, it can't replace a dedicated camera. But do any of your cameras also make phone calls, text message, search the internet, order an Uber, translate from virtually any language to English and vice versa? Will it be able to use its lens to aid with that translation? Does it link up to your car to play music or act as a live sat nav using Google /maps/waze or whatever? Can it also aid you in directions when out and about on foot in a new place? Will your camera remember where you’ve parked your car? Can you use it as bank card or a hotel room digital key (ours did in Detroit) can it hook you up with a date for the night if you’re feeling lonely? I could go on. So whilst it might not replace a camera on the whole for a lot of things, it is bloody useful, can take very good photos and considering what else they can do, they are a great bit of kit.
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Post by daves on Jul 31, 2024 12:20:49 GMT
While £1000 might be a lot for a phone, is it a lot for a phone plus a camera? I don't think so. Actually it's a phone plus 4 cameras in the case of the Xiaomi 14 Ultra. And a high end smartphone has more computing power than the original Cray 1 supercomputer.
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Post by don on Jul 31, 2024 17:19:13 GMT
I just looked up the Cray computer. Phones are marvellous for all of the above reasons and if you’re into blogging or social media the link up is seamless. Saving people time and money, the world of photography has moved so far away from where we were just a few years ago let alone the distance from 100 years ago. Cameras in phones is marvelous and opens up the world of photography to a whole new audience who might one day go out and buy a ‘REAL CAMERA ‘ whatever that might look like.
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Post by daves on Jul 31, 2024 17:33:56 GMT
Grumpy luddite git mode\ mutter mutter mutter, cameras went downhill after wet plate, mutter mutter mutter \
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Post by daves on Jul 31, 2024 17:38:44 GMT
Double post
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