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Post by zou on May 7, 2023 12:06:42 GMT
Tourists famously don't go to countries without monarchies.
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Post by gezza on May 7, 2023 12:17:50 GMT
They obviously do but from a financial point of view the upkeep is possibly 500 million and “royalty” tourism generating up to 2.5 billion. Up to half could be lost.
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Post by peterba on May 7, 2023 13:49:47 GMT
They obviously do but from a financial point of view the upkeep is possibly 500 million and “royalty” tourism generating up to 2.5 billion. Up to half could be lost.
.....which means that - after a period of about 35 years - we'd have lost around the same amount as Truss threw away in a single week.  |
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Post by zou on May 7, 2023 14:15:25 GMT
They obviously do but from a financial point of view the upkeep is possibly 500 million and “royalty” tourism generating up to 2.5 billion. Up to half could be lost.
.....which means that - after a period of about 35 years - we'd have lost around the same amount as Truss threw away in a single week. And who gets it anyway? Hospitality/catering spend goes to owners/offshore; souvenir spend similarly, but much made abroad rather than locally, so how much of that alleged money that is 'brought in' actually does anything productive? |
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Post by andy on May 7, 2023 14:38:18 GMT
.....which means that - after a period of about 35 years - we'd have lost around the same amount as Truss threw away in a single week. And who gets it anyway? Hospitality/catering spend goes to owners/offshore; souvenir spend similarly, but much made abroad rather than locally, so how much of that alleged money that is 'brought in' actually does anything productive? Vat, council tax, income tax and repeat. Queen Nessie? Problem solved?! |
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Post by nickr on May 7, 2023 14:41:53 GMT
From a tourist point of view it is the fact that the traditions are centuries old and would lose its attraction if it was freshly elected nonentities being faux heads of state (as opposed to heriditary nonentities) Is that a fact? Please show me the proof. If he's trimming it as his first namesake was trimmed, the country could make untold trillions from tickets to the public executions, and even more from global TV rights...  |
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Post by gezza on May 7, 2023 14:55:33 GMT
no I don’t want to give you proof……. but your more than welcome to prove me wrong.  |
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Post by spinno on May 7, 2023 16:41:49 GMT
From a tourist point of view it is the fact that the traditions are centuries old and would lose its attraction if it was freshly elected nonentities being faux heads of state (as opposed to heriditary nonentities) Chas 3 has said he is going to trim the firm, let’s see, maybe he means it. I think some of the firm have jumped before they were pushed...Apart from Andrew of course. I want Prince Louis to be King. He has the right attitude. Trouble is it would mean another four state funerals |
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Post by Chester PB on May 7, 2023 21:13:35 GMT
Passport IIRC £75 for 10 years. £7.5 per year, under 63p per month. Edit - Yes it sucks but that's life.
£37.50 to vote in a general election? Perhaps you could vote in every election for which you are entitled to do so, hence getting much better value for your money. Also, having voted in local elections too, you would also be entitled to complain about those who are elected. If you don't use your vote, you have no right to complain because your vote could have made a difference. Voting is so easy with a postal vote, and you also get the pleasure of telling annoying canvassers who knock on your door with leaflets that they are too late because you have already posted your vote. For General Elections, I put a note inside a window beside the door 'postal vote already used - no leaflets wanted'. |
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Post by andy on May 7, 2023 22:18:19 GMT
£37.50 to vote in a general election? Perhaps you could vote in every election for which you are entitled to do so, hence getting much better value for your money. Also, having voted in local elections too, you would also be entitled to complain about those who are elected. If you don't use your vote, you have no right to complain because your vote could have made a difference. Voting is so easy with a postal vote, and you also get the pleasure of telling annoying canvassers who knock on your door with leaflets that they are too late because you have already posted your vote. For General Elections, I put a note inside a window beside the door 'postal vote already used - no leaflets wanted'. How much value would you place on a Scottish election? My polling station is just at the end of my street so I do try to vote at every opportunity too. I enjoy bumping into others who are there to vote in person, particularly as it has good chance of resulting in more bikes to repair these days . There's no need to discuss politics when there is a connection on civic duty and the love of riding a bike. That said the Scottish Government cycle repair scheme ran from covid restrictions until recently, cost £1m and had people like me actively encouraging others to get out on a bike. I think that was money well spent and should be UK wide. |
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Post by JohnY on May 7, 2023 22:24:02 GMT
We don't get canvassers knocking on the door. We don't even get leaflets from Labour. The Lib Dems try. Surprisingly we got a leaflet from an independent. She had quite a good CV until she blew it by disclosing that she was active in the GMB. Our Rushcliffe is one of only three Tory boroughs left in Notts.
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Post by dreampolice on May 8, 2023 8:15:02 GMT
Passport IIRC £75 for 10 years. £7.5 per year, under 63p per month. Edit - Yes it sucks but that's life.
The price has gone up. Need two for a couple. Just annoying to have one to prove id when an id card (that every one would have to have) would do the job. I had to have one (two for visas) for business travel but I'm never going abroad again. It is back door politics - no id card because it smacks of police state - can't function without a self-elected choice of photo-id (passport, driving licence) whether it ever gets used for its intended purpose or not. Or £20 to get a photo card licence, or if you are over 70 it is free. |
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Post by andy on May 8, 2023 8:35:01 GMT
The price has gone up. Need two for a couple. Just annoying to have one to prove id when an id card (that every one would have to have) would do the job. I had to have one (two for visas) for business travel but I'm never going abroad again. It is back door politics - no id card because it smacks of police state - can't function without a self-elected choice of photo-id (passport, driving licence) whether it ever gets used for its intended purpose or not. Or £20 to get a photo card licence, or if you are over 70 it is free. Not much use to the visually impaired though as you need to be able to read a number plate from 20 metres to apply. |
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Post by mick on May 8, 2023 8:47:59 GMT
It cost me nearer £100 by the time I'd got a photo and posted my old passport back. Could be an issue finding someone to sign an application form. You don’t need lots and signatures for a renewal and a doctor can sign a passport application. I think Lesley could find a doctor. Almost anyone can sign. Here's from the govt website:
"Who can sign your form and photo
Your countersignatory must:
# have known you (or the adult who signed the form if the passport is for a child under 16) for at least 2 years
# be able to identify you, for example they’re a friend, neighbour or colleague (not just someone who knows you professionally)
#be ‘a person of good standing in their community’ or work in (or be retired from) a recognised profession"
The # are 'bullets' in the original but I couldn't make the copy/paste work properly.
Mick
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Post by dreampolice on May 8, 2023 8:51:06 GMT
Or £20 to get a photo card licence, or if you are over 70 it is free. Not much use to the visually impaired though as you need to be able to read a number plate from 20 metres to apply. It was in reference to Pete, as he was saying they had paper licences and also mentioning how expensive passports were. |
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