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Post by lesleysm2 on May 6, 2023 20:48:05 GMT
I have endless trouble as I don't have a passport or a driving licence
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Post by willien on May 6, 2023 21:11:02 GMT
I have endless trouble as I don't have a passport or a driving licence Passport IIRC £75 for 10 years. £7.5 per year, under 63p per month. Edit - Yes it sucks but that's life.
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May 6, 2023 21:19:49 GMT
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Post by daves on May 6, 2023 21:19:49 GMT
It cost me nearer £100 by the time I'd got a photo and posted my old passport back.
Could be an issue finding someone to sign an application form.
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Post by geoffr on May 6, 2023 21:21:55 GMT
My problem with the idea of a republic is that we would have to elect some totally unstable and possibly corrupt politician every few years. Look at the mess some other countries have got themselves into. There would have to be a written constitution, means to get rid of the elected individual, and all the other problems. As it is parliament makes the decisions and the Sovereign is pretty easy a rubber stamp. A president would expect to dictate policy. Because those are the only two options? Do you want a theocracy? What other option would you suggest? |
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Post by geoffr on May 6, 2023 21:24:00 GMT
It cost me nearer £100 by the time I'd got a photo and posted my old passport back. Could be an issue finding someone to sign an application form. You don’t need lots and signatures for a renewal and a doctor can sign a passport application. I think Lesley could find a doctor. |
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May 6, 2023 21:29:45 GMT
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Post by daves on May 6, 2023 21:29:45 GMT
No, renewing my passport was dead easy apart from the photo. The local PO had got rid of the photo booth, so had to get it done at a local "photographic" shop.
Getting my passport in the first place was a bit of a faff, as I only had a short form birth certificate so had to apply for the full version. My next door neighbour had the qualifications to sign the form.
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Post by willien on May 6, 2023 21:38:05 GMT
As long as it is not Mad Trezze's version, I have no problem with ID cards. Basic Citz. ID is fine with me - and would have saved me 75 green drinking vouchers.
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Post by geoffr on May 6, 2023 21:52:54 GMT
No, renewing my passport was dead easy apart from the photo. The local PO had got rid of the photo booth, so had to get it done at a local "photographic" shop. Getting my passport in the first place was a bit of a faff, as I only had a short form birth certificate so had to apply for the full version. My next door neighbour had the qualifications to sign the form. I am not sure whether I can still sign a passport application or not. |
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May 7, 2023 7:48:28 GMT
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Post by andy on May 7, 2023 7:48:28 GMT
I have endless trouble as I don't have a passport or a driving licence Passport IIRC £75 for 10 years. £7.5 per year, under 63p per month. Edit - Yes it sucks but that's life.
£37.50 to vote in a general election? |
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Post by nickr on May 7, 2023 8:02:41 GMT
Hate to break it to you but the guillotines are not coming for the republicans.  My problem with the idea of a republic is that we would have to elect some totally unstable and possibly corrupt politician every few years. Look at the mess some other countries have got themselves into. There would have to be a written constitution, means to get rid of the elected individual, and all the other problems. As it is parliament makes the decisions and the Sovereign is pretty easy a rubber stamp. A president would expect to dictate policy. Yeah, that's a complete red herring. There's absolutely no need to have an executive presidency - take Ireland, their president is purely ceremonial. Works fine. |
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Post by peterob on May 7, 2023 8:25:16 GMT
I have endless trouble as I don't have a passport or a driving licence Passport IIRC £75 for 10 years. £7.5 per year, under 63p per month. Edit - Yes it sucks but that's life.
The price has gone up. Need two for a couple. Just annoying to have one to prove id when an id card (that every one would have to have) would do the job. I had to have one (two for visas) for business travel but I'm never going abroad again. It is back door politics - no id card because it smacks of police state - can't function without a self-elected choice of photo-id (passport, driving licence) whether it ever gets used for its intended purpose or not. |
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May 7, 2023 10:35:38 GMT
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Post by zou on May 7, 2023 10:35:38 GMT
My problem with the idea of a republic is that we would have to elect some totally unstable and possibly corrupt politician every few years. Look at the mess some other countries have got themselves into. There would have to be a written constitution, means to get rid of the elected individual, and all the other problems. As it is parliament makes the decisions and the Sovereign is pretty easy a rubber stamp. A president would expect to dictate policy. Yeah, that's a complete red herring. There's absolutely no need to have an executive presidency - take Ireland, their president is purely ceremonial. Works fine. Indeed. Another alternative is Switzerland's council. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Council_(Switzerland) |
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Post by geoffr on May 7, 2023 10:40:20 GMT
My problem with the idea of a republic is that we would have to elect some totally unstable and possibly corrupt politician every few years. Look at the mess some other countries have got themselves into. There would have to be a written constitution, means to get rid of the elected individual, and all the other problems. As it is parliament makes the decisions and the Sovereign is pretty easy a rubber stamp. A president would expect to dictate policy. Yeah, that's a complete red herring. There's absolutely no need to have an executive presidency - take Ireland, their president is purely ceremonial. Works fine. If yo get rid of the Sovereign you also lose all the ceremonial that attracts tourists. Like it or not this can be a pretty uninspiring place to visit, especially if you get rid of all the traditions. That said, the Royal family has a tendency to become bloated over time. Once the heir to the throne has children his/her siblings drift down the order of accession. Do they have a role? Clearly William's children are too young to play a role but I am unconvinced that we need dozens of Royals. |
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Post by nickr on May 7, 2023 10:48:45 GMT
Yeah, that's a complete red herring. There's absolutely no need to have an executive presidency - take Ireland, their president is purely ceremonial. Works fine. If yo get rid of the Sovereign you also lose all the ceremonial that attracts tourists. Like it or not this can be a pretty uninspiring place to visit, especially if you get rid of all the traditions. That said, the Royal family has a tendency to become bloated over time. Once the heir to the throne has children his/her siblings drift down the order of accession. Do they have a role? Clearly William's children are too young to play a role but I am unconvinced that we need dozens of Royals. So have an elected, fixed-term monarchy. Keep the tourist pomp etc, but without the nonsense of heredity. |
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Post by gezza on May 7, 2023 11:31:01 GMT
From a tourist point of view it is the fact that the traditions are centuries old and would lose its attraction if it was freshly elected nonentities being faux heads of state (as opposed to heriditary nonentities)
Chas 3 has said he is going to trim the firm, let’s see, maybe he means it.
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