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Post by andy on Feb 27, 2023 13:15:44 GMT
What are your views on it?
I think it can't come soon enough but one aspect of it I've not seen mentioned in the press is the effect on council waste collections. Surely it will result in less waste being collected by the binmen and save councils money if they have less plastic bottles and metal cans to dispose of? And no more glass bottles to collect so, round here at least, one less truck and crew to send round the streets which should save them money, reduce their carbon footprint, result in less broken glass on pavements and mean I'm less likely to get woken up at 0730 by the racket.
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Post by don on Feb 27, 2023 20:56:11 GMT
Not heard anything about it but if items have a value people will respect them then not just chuck them out of a car window. Kids will collect discarded bottles and earn a few Bob
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Post by andy on Feb 27, 2023 21:12:59 GMT
Not heard anything about it but if items have a value people will respect them then not just chuck them out of a car window. Kids will collect discarded bottles and earn a few Bob 20p per item deposit and it's supposed to be starting in August, IIRC, in Scotland. Seems like a new first minister might be happy to delay it again though. |
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Post by zou on Mar 2, 2023 13:19:45 GMT
I find it frustrating that things which are normal in many other countries are seen as terrible nightmares which will destroy the economy. Hope it gets started soon.
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Post by squeamishossifrage on Mar 2, 2023 13:43:06 GMT
What are your views on it? I think it can't come soon enough but one aspect of it I've not seen mentioned in the press is the effect on council waste collections. Surely it will result in less waste being collected by the binmen and save councils money if they have less plastic bottles and metal cans to dispose of? And no more glass bottles to collect so, round here at least, one less truck and crew to send round the streets which should save them money, reduce their carbon footprint, result in less broken glass on pavements and mean I'm less likely to get woken up at 0730 by the racket. Don't worry - I am quite sure all the savings are going to paid directly to the binmen for having such a rubbish job. Damn - but this hash is good stuff!  |
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Post by andy on Apr 20, 2023 17:14:07 GMT
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Post by willien on Apr 20, 2023 18:33:41 GMT
What are your views on it? I think it can't come soon enough but one aspect of it I've not seen mentioned in the press is the effect on council waste collections. Surely it will result in less waste being collected by the binmen and save councils money if they have less plastic bottles and metal cans to dispose of? And no more glass bottles to collect so, round here at least, one less truck and crew to send round the streets which should save them money, reduce their carbon footprint, result in less broken glass on pavements and mean I'm less likely to get woken up at 0730 by the racket. Currently my empty bottles are picked up by a bin lorry that is also picking up other stuff (along with everybody elses). So in future I am supposed to drive or get a bus to god knows where... same as the rest of my street will be doing.
Greener council my arse.
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Post by willien on Apr 20, 2023 18:35:46 GMT
What are your views on it? I think it can't come soon enough but one aspect of it I've not seen mentioned in the press is the effect on council waste collections. Surely it will result in less waste being collected by the binmen and save councils money if they have less plastic bottles and metal cans to dispose of? And no more glass bottles to collect so, round here at least, one less truck and crew to send round the streets which should save them money, reduce their carbon footprint, result in less broken glass on pavements and mean I'm less likely to get woken up at 0730 by the racket. Don't worry - I am quite sure all the savings are going to paid directly to the binmen for having such a rubbish job. Damn - but this hash is good stuff! Actually the one potential good thing would be if the bin men still picked up the stuff and got the "totting rights" benefit - but the councils are sure to let that happen, right? |
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Post by neilt3 on Apr 20, 2023 18:50:26 GMT
Not heard anything about it but if items have a value people will respect them then not just chuck them out of a car window. Kids will collect discarded bottles and earn a few Bob First I'd heard of this , but then it is in Scotland . When we were kids we used to take empty pop bottles to the corner shop at the end of the road for the deposit back , I can't remember if it was 5p or 10p a bottle . This was in the late 70's to early 80's . We did quite well out of , we were only nippers at the time . I think we only got about 20p a week pocket money at the time ! At some point I think they worked out we climbed onto the dustbin they left outside and scrambled over the wall into the shops back yard , passed the bottles over before taking them in the front door to get the deposit back ! When they moved the bin back in we were skint again .  County folk went scrumping for apples , we went scrumping for empty bottles !  |
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Post by nickr on Apr 20, 2023 19:02:38 GMT
Not heard anything about it but if items have a value people will respect them then not just chuck them out of a car window. Kids will collect discarded bottles and earn a few Bob First I'd heard of this , but then it is in Scotland . When we were kids we used to take empty pop bottles to the corner shop at the end of the road for the deposit back , I can't remember if it was 5p or 10p a bottle . This was in the late 70's to early 80's . We did quite well out of , we were only nippers at the time . I think we only got about 20p a week pocket money at the time ! At some point I think they worked out we climbed onto the dustbin they left outside and scrambled over the wall into the shops back yard , passed the bottles over before taking them in the front door to get the deposit back ! When they moved the bin back in we were skint again . County folk went scrumping for apples , we went scrumping for empty bottles ! Did something very similar in the late 60s/early 70s - the pub up the road collected empties in an unlocked outhouse. We would liberate some in the evening, and take them back the next day. Mind you, I think it was an old sixpence, so we never got rich. |
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Post by andy on Apr 20, 2023 19:09:23 GMT
What are your views on it? I think it can't come soon enough but one aspect of it I've not seen mentioned in the press is the effect on council waste collections. Surely it will result in less waste being collected by the binmen and save councils money if they have less plastic bottles and metal cans to dispose of? And no more glass bottles to collect so, round here at least, one less truck and crew to send round the streets which should save them money, reduce their carbon footprint, result in less broken glass on pavements and mean I'm less likely to get woken up at 0730 by the racket. Currently my empty bottles are picked up by a bin lorry that is also picking up other stuff (along with everybody elses). So in future I am supposed to drive or get a bus to god knows where... same as the rest of my street will be doing.
Greener council my arse.
You get the deposit back from retailers so for me, and I expect most others, it will mean taking the empties back to the supermarket when we go shopping. New changes to the scheme are exemptions for containers under 100ml and for limited runs of less than 5000 bottles. Also we won't be able to go to the pub and pay for a pint with empty cans of Tennants. |
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Post by willien on Apr 20, 2023 20:07:51 GMT
Currently my empty bottles are picked up by a bin lorry that is also picking up other stuff (along with everybody elses). So in future I am supposed to drive or get a bus to god knows where... same as the rest of my street will be doing.
Greener council my arse.
You get the deposit back from retailers so for me, and I expect most others, it will mean taking the empties back to the supermarket when we go shopping. New changes to the scheme are exemptions for containers under 100ml and for limited runs of less than 5000 bottles. Also we won't be able to go to the pub and pay for a pint with empty cans of Tennants. a) Some of us get delivered, b) I get my wine delivered not by a supermarket - which I very seldom visit anyway - so unless my offie offers a pick up service...
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Post by andy on Apr 20, 2023 20:36:58 GMT
You get the deposit back from retailers so for me, and I expect most others, it will mean taking the empties back to the supermarket when we go shopping. New changes to the scheme are exemptions for containers under 100ml and for limited runs of less than 5000 bottles. Also we won't be able to go to the pub and pay for a pint with empty cans of Tennants. a) Some of us get delivered, b) I get my wine delivered not by a supermarket - which I very seldom visit anyway - so unless my offie offers a pick up service...
I believe your offie will have to offer that service. |
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Post by geoffr on Apr 21, 2023 6:52:59 GMT
What a wonderful idea, shame it isn’t new! I remember we had such a thing in the early 1960s on Corona bottles, Coca Cola, Pepsi and of course milk bottles (not that one actually got money back for returning milk bottles). At the same time the UK had the world’s largest fleet of battery electric vehicles.
Of course glass is relatively heavy so, unlikely plastic bottles, the cost of transporting them will be significant but no worse than taking them to the tip. Quite frankly the don’t understand why we ever went away from deposit on bottles. It was a system that worked but somebody obviously worked out the plastic bottles were cheaper to buy, transport and scrap than glass. You can’t use a broken plastic bottle as a weapon either, not that I recall it ever being offered as a reason.
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Post by mick on Apr 21, 2023 7:22:22 GMT
During the long summer vacation from university I use to become a temporary milkman delivering to the doorstep. The dairy charged me 1p (old penny) for each bottle that I took out. They credited me with 1p for each empty I brought back. I was not allowed to pass on the 1p to the customer.
Of course there were always fewer coming back than going out so the tricks we learned to increase our returns number were quite interesting.
Mick
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