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Post by Bipolar on May 8, 2023 13:39:16 GMT
In Canada we have had deposits on beverage containers and larger drink containers for decades. It greatly reduced the amount of litter that people seem to have no trouble discarding. I donate all mine to a couple friends that run a charity to help the less fortunate with medical costs and prescriptions as do a lot of other people. Its really wonderful what they have done. Here is an article from our local newspaper: Terrace Standard |
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Post by andy on Jun 8, 2023 15:56:43 GMT
Well that's that deid until the tories in Westminster get their finger out. What a piece of nonsense, to put it politely!
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Post by willien on Jun 8, 2023 16:27:29 GMT
Well that's that deid until the tories in Westminster get their finger out. What a piece of nonsense, to put it politely! You could always buy earplugs. |
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Post by andy on Jun 8, 2023 17:48:04 GMT
Well that's that deid until the tories in Westminster get their finger out. What a piece of nonsense, to put it politely! You could always buy earplugs. I could but then I'd be less aware that the constant petty bickering between Scottish nationalists and UK nationalists is costing jobs, harming the environment and businesses have around £300 million tied up in it for the foreseeable future (plus whatever they have spent in Wales). The tories have done the country another disservice. |
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Post by Ivor E Tower on Jun 8, 2023 19:13:00 GMT
I'd rather that we just carry on recycling as we do at the moment with doorstep collections by the binmen. It saves the troble of having to cart empties to the shops, queue and wait to get the deposit back then find after a while you have several kilos of loose change. I think that the sort of people who just chuck plastic bottles into the countryside etc will continue to do so for the sake of a small deposit.
FWIW last year in Germany on holiday, I tried to use a machine to get my deposit back on my bottles - you get a vocher to use at the tills against your bill but if you are not buying naything then I presiume that they would give you the refund. The bottle that I had wiuth me from England could not be taken abck as the machine reads the barcode to work out if you should get a deposit. No problem with getting no depoist refunded but how do I then dispose of the bottle? If it had taken it from me for recyclingand not given me any money I would have felt "happy". Instead I had to carry it around and look for a bin in whch to put it. Then wheny ou fly out, of course there is no machine at the airport to give you a refund on any plastic bottles you happpen to still have with you. This year I shall try to remember to keep hold of my English bottle and decant the contents of my last German-bought bottle into it before I come back
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Post by andy on Jun 8, 2023 19:49:36 GMT
I'd rather that we just carry on recycling as we do at the moment with doorstep collections by the binmen. It saves the troble of having to cart empties to the shops, queue and wait to get the deposit back then find after a while you have several kilos of loose change. I think that the sort of people who just chuck plastic bottles into the countryside etc will continue to do so for the sake of a small deposit. IIRC the recycling rate with doorstep collections is less than 70% and deposit return schemes typically over 90% and results in higher quality recycled materials. 45 places around the world already have deposit return schemes (including Canada where the minister in charge of the scheme is from) so there is plenty data on how it reduces litter and improves recycling rates. If somebody drops a plastic bottle in the countryside somebody else might see 20p, just as if you continue to put your bottles out for collection somebody will probably take them away. |
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Post by zou on Jun 8, 2023 20:56:07 GMT
It's also about who foots the bill for recycling. Now it's councils, most of whom have crippling debt and are cutting many services, but with DRS the company creating the bottle pay for it to be recycled, as I understand it. This could make a massive difference to council finances.
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Post by JohnY on Jun 8, 2023 21:12:29 GMT
We have bottle banks in supermarket car parks and other convenient places. We are in a nice area with nice people and most folks don't need to be bribed to recycle their empty bottles and jars. Why is Scotland any different?
I don't want curbside collection. What would the neighbours think at the quantity that I recycled?
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Post by andy on Jun 8, 2023 21:17:37 GMT
It's also about who foots the bill for recycling. Now it's councils, most of whom have crippling debt and are cutting many services, but with DRS the company creating the bottle pay for it to be recycled, as I understand it. This could make a massive difference to council finances. Agreed. It should cost the consumer not to recycle. Can't remember exact details but I think the company producing (or filling?) the bottles pays a penny or two over the 20p deposit to cover the costs of running the scheme. As an aside I spotted a bottle of something in the bathroom that I'm supposed to peel the labelling/wrapping off to be able to recycle the bottle. Somehow I expect way less than 70% of folk will do that so a DRS could also force products to be easier to recycle in their entirety. |
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