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Post by peterob on Jun 5, 2023 10:45:34 GMT
Well it's a spanner in the works for my plans on world domination.  World Domination - It's really not worth all the hard work, believe me... I've tried several times  Got to pick the right world. |
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Post by spinno on Jun 5, 2023 20:29:25 GMT
Well it's a spanner in the works for my plans on world domination. World Domination - It's really not worth all the hard work, believe me... I've tried several times Yeah but you get to press any red buttons lying around |
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Post by geoffr on Jun 6, 2023 6:34:55 GMT
World Domination - It's really not worth all the hard work, believe me... I've tried several times Yeah but you get to press any red buttons lying around Now look what you’ve done… |
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Post by JohnY on Jun 9, 2023 21:41:38 GMT
Good review of Nikon Z 8 from Andy Westlake except for one thing. A thousandth of a second is two short for photographing a propeller propelled aeroplane. On the plus side the propeller blades were not bent. He didn't comment on the 100-400 Nikkor but seemed to enjoy using it.
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Post by andy on Jun 9, 2023 22:17:47 GMT
Good review of Nikon Z 8 from Andy Westlake except for one thing. A thousandth of a second is two short for photographing a propeller propelled aeroplane. On the plus side the propeller blades were not bent. He didn't comment on the 100-400 Nikkor but seemed to enjoy using it. How much of the frame was the propeller occupying? Suspect the full height of the frame would be the toughest test for shutter distortion. I do rather like the old shots of racing cars with distortion from the focal plane shutters though. Maybe one of these days I'll try shooting some of my own....it might look good with bikes too. |
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Post by Chester PB on Jun 21, 2023 21:31:28 GMT
I have just looked at the website again, and found that more stuff about buying second hand has been added, including recommendations. This article about buying second hand lenses for DSLRs caught my attention, since I own 3 of the lenses listed (I purchased mine after looking at the very helpful reviews in the Pentax Forum reviews section). amateurphotographer.com/buying-advice/second-hand-lenses-ultimate-buying-guide/These are the ones I own, although my 90 mm is the original 'non Di' model. Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC Macro Tamron SP AF 90mm f/2.8 Di Macro Conspicuous by its absence is the old-model Sigma 10-20, which is a decent lens and anybody wanting one to fit a Canon or Nikon APS-C body can now find one in good condition for less than £100 at LCE (the more recent larger and heavier model can be found for £150). I would also have included the Sigma 50 mm F 2.8 Macro, but there are probably fewer of these about. Mine works well with a Nikon slide copier made to use with their 60 mm macro lens, so I only needed a cheap stepping ring to fit it on the Sigma. Has anybody else seen this AP website article and have more possible additions to offer? |
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Post by peterob on Jun 22, 2023 6:23:40 GMT
I have just looked at the website again, and found that more stuff about buying second hand has been added, including recommendations. This article about buying second hand lenses for DSLRs caught my attention, since I own 3 of the lenses listed (I purchased mine after looking at the very helpful reviews in the Pentax Forum reviews section). amateurphotographer.com/buying-advice/second-hand-lenses-ultimate-buying-guide/These are the ones I own, although my 90 mm is the original 'non Di' model. Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC Macro Tamron SP AF 90mm f/2.8 Di Macro Conspicuous by its absence is the old-model Sigma 10-20, which is a decent lens and anybody wanting one to fit a Canon or Nikon APS-C body can now find one in good condition for less than £100 at LCE (the more recent larger and heavier model can be found for £150). I would also have included the Sigma 50 mm F 2.8 Macro, but there are probably fewer of these about. Mine works well with a Nikon slide copier made to use with their 60 mm macro lens, so I only needed a cheap stepping ring to fit it on the Sigma. Has anybody else seen this AP website article and have more possible additions to offer? Not read it. They are close to MPB so I'd expect any article to reflect MPB views. I've read so many tales of woe about compatibility of old Sigma lenses that I can understand their not being recommended. |
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Post by petrochemist on Jun 22, 2023 9:15:15 GMT
I have just looked at the website again, and found that more stuff about buying second hand has been added, including recommendations. This article about buying second hand lenses for DSLRs caught my attention, since I own 3 of the lenses listed (I purchased mine after looking at the very helpful reviews in the Pentax Forum reviews section). amateurphotographer.com/buying-advice/second-hand-lenses-ultimate-buying-guide/These are the ones I own, although my 90 mm is the original 'non Di' model. Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC Macro Tamron SP AF 90mm f/2.8 Di Macro Conspicuous by its absence is the old-model Sigma 10-20, which is a decent lens and anybody wanting one to fit a Canon or Nikon APS-C body can now find one in good condition for less than £100 at LCE (the more recent larger and heavier model can be found for £150). I would also have included the Sigma 50 mm F 2.8 Macro, but there are probably fewer of these about. Mine works well with a Nikon slide copier made to use with their 60 mm macro lens, so I only needed a cheap stepping ring to fit it on the Sigma. Has anybody else seen this AP website article and have more possible additions to offer? I'd not seen it, but thanks to your prompting gave it a quick look. All the lenses they show are expensive models, less than 1% of my lenses have come to as much as the cheapest guide price they list! Going with older manual focus primes there are some cracking lenses around that can be great fun to use. Notable examples from my hoard: Just about any of the relatively fast 50mm primes - models from f/2 down to f/1.4 are affordable and almost invariably optically good. The Carl Zeiss Jena 35mm/2.4 flektogon is a really beautiful lens often selling for ~£200 The adaptall version of the Tamron SP 90mm Macro is another well respected lens, mine was in rather grubby condition so I was able to pick it up for £1  The rangefinder based Industar 10 is a quirky lens, that's fun to try on mirrorless bodies - I can't judge the Leica lens it's based on (far outside my price range). I can use the first three of these on any of my Pentax or Sigma DSLRs, but the focus aids in modern mirrorless cameras do make them more successful on those bodies. Rangefinder lenses are mirrorless only unless you're planning on sticking to close-up/macro. Ultra wide legacy lenses do tend to be very disappointing, and getting good results from long manual telephotos can be a challenge but the intermediate focal lengths are full of budget friendly lenses that perform well despite being ~50 years old. |
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Post by Chester PB on Jun 22, 2023 15:15:30 GMT
I have just looked at the website again, and found that more stuff about buying second hand has been added, including recommendations. This article about buying second hand lenses for DSLRs caught my attention, since I own 3 of the lenses listed (I purchased mine after looking at the very helpful reviews in the Pentax Forum reviews section). amateurphotographer.com/buying-advice/second-hand-lenses-ultimate-buying-guide/These are the ones I own, although my 90 mm is the original 'non Di' model. Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC Macro Tamron SP AF 90mm f/2.8 Di Macro Conspicuous by its absence is the old-model Sigma 10-20, which is a decent lens and anybody wanting one to fit a Canon or Nikon APS-C body can now find one in good condition for less than £100 at LCE (the more recent larger and heavier model can be found for £150). I would also have included the Sigma 50 mm F 2.8 Macro, but there are probably fewer of these about. Mine works well with a Nikon slide copier made to use with their 60 mm macro lens, so I only needed a cheap stepping ring to fit it on the Sigma. Has anybody else seen this AP website article and have more possible additions to offer? I'd not seen it, but thanks to your prompting gave it a quick look. All the lenses they show are expensive models, less than 1% of my lenses have come to as much as the cheapest guide price they list! Going with older manual focus primes there are some cracking lenses around that can be great fun to use. Notable examples from my hoard: Just about any of the relatively fast 50mm primes - models from f/2 down to f/1.4 are affordable and almost invariably optically good. The Carl Zeiss Jena 35mm/2.4 flektogon is a really beautiful lens often selling for ~£200 The adaptall version of the Tamron SP 90mm Macro is another well respected lens, mine was in rather grubby condition so I was able to pick it up for £1 The rangefinder based Industar 10 is a quirky lens, that's fun to try on mirrorless bodies - I can't judge the Leica lens it's based on (far outside my price range). I can use the first three of these on any of my Pentax or Sigma DSLRs, but the focus aids in modern mirrorless cameras do make them more successful on those bodies. Rangefinder lenses are mirrorless only unless you're planning on sticking to close-up/macro. Ultra wide legacy lenses do tend to be very disappointing, and getting good results from long manual telephotos can be a challenge but the intermediate focal lengths are full of budget friendly lenses that perform well despite being ~50 years old. All my second hand lenses are Pentax K mount to use with a Pentax DSLR, and all have worked perfectly. I had to adjust the focus point on my K-5 body when using the the 30 mm (a quick job), but I have read that this is not uncommon. |
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Post by Chester PB on Jun 22, 2023 15:27:29 GMT
Not read it. They are close to MPB so I'd expect any article to reflect MPB views. I've read so many tales of woe about compatibility of old Sigma lenses that I can understand their not being recommended. The intimate relationship between AP and MPB is obvious to anybody who reads AP regularly, but as I explained I made my purchases after checking reviews on the Pentax Forum website's reviews pages. As well as observations about performance, any compatibility problems would have been noted too. From what I have read, compatibility with Sigma lenses appears mostly to be with some Nikon DSLRs. Previously, on the AP Forum website, I have advised people contemplating buying a used Sigma lens to take their camera body to the shop and try the lens on it. Or if buying from the website of a reputable dealer, advise them what camera body you have and ask them to try the lens on an identical body. Larger retailers will probably have a body in stock and be able to do this, or be prepared to promise a refund if requested if they cannot confirm the test has been done. |
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Post by aitch on Jun 22, 2023 15:30:06 GMT
MPB are also quite close to ePhotozine - there's even an MPB subforum in the forums.
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Post by petrochemist on Jun 22, 2023 15:35:11 GMT
All my second hand lenses are Pentax K mount to use with a Pentax DSLR, and all have worked perfectly. I had to adjust the focus point on my K-5 body when using the the 30 mm (a quick job), but I have read that this is not uncommon. If you get the right sort of adapter (one that fully sits inside the bayonet mount) the older M42 lenses are also easy to use on Pentax DSLRs. Nearly all my K mount (and all my M42) lenses have been brought second hand. Strangely the one that gives most issues - A sigma 150-500 in which the AF motor often only works one way - was one of the few brought new. |
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Post by Chester PB on Jun 22, 2023 15:37:56 GMT
MPB are also quite close to ePhotozine - there's even an MPB subforum in the forums. When seeking impartial advice, do not only consult somebody who is trying to sell you something. Their advice may be part of your decision making process, but to what degree depends on your relationship with them. This applies to mortgages and pensions just as much as it applies to lenses. I always liked the 'would you buy a used car from this man?' cover of Private Eye many years ago, featuring a minister in the current government. |
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Post by aitch on Jun 22, 2023 16:18:33 GMT
MPB are also quite close to ePhotozine - there's even an MPB subforum in the forums. When seeking impartial advice, do not only consult somebody who is trying to sell you something. Their advice may be part of your decision making process, but to what degree depends on your relationship with them. This applies to mortgages and pensions just as much as it applies to lenses. I always liked the 'would you buy a used car from this man?' cover of Private Eye many years ago, featuring a minister in the current government. Why are you telling me this? |
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Post by El Sid on Jun 23, 2023 11:46:42 GMT
Not read it. They are close to MPB so I'd expect any article to reflect MPB views. I've read so many tales of woe about compatibility of old Sigma lenses that I can understand their not being recommended. The intimate relationship between AP and MPB is obvious to anybody who reads AP regularly, but as I explained I made my purchases after checking reviews on the Pentax Forum website's reviews pages. As well as observations about performance, any compatibility problems would have been noted too. From what I have read, compatibility with Sigma lenses appears mostly to be with some Nikon DSLRs. Previously, on the AP Forum website, I have advised people contemplating buying a used Sigma lens to take their camera body to the shop and try the lens on it. Or if buying from the website of a reputable dealer, advise them what camera body you have and ask them to try the lens on an identical body. Larger retailers will probably have a body in stock and be able to do this, or be prepared to promise a refund if requested if they cannot confirm the test has been done. It's not just Nikon, indeed I've not encountered it with my cameras but then I only have a couple of Sigma lenses in Nikon fit, but it is common with Canon. I have 4 old Sigma lenses that simply will not work with any EOS later than my D30 - in fact they won't even work on my EOS30 film camera which is of the same age age as the D30...  |
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