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Post by willien on May 3, 2024 14:05:10 GMT
At the time of typing, Independents have almost as many gains as Labour and almost twice as many as the LibDems. A plague on all your houses? Mick In my experience "independant" counsellors are generally tories without the label. "Independant" counsellors tend to be more popular than "independant" parliamentary candidates. I do not think much at all can be read into the above comment and suggest the Labour and Lib Dem gains are the more significant stats. |
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Post by gray1720 on May 3, 2024 14:08:20 GMT
Funeral out of the way. Now we can hit the pub and get shitfaced in his memory.
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Post by gray1720 on May 3, 2024 14:10:00 GMT
At the time of typing, Independents have almost as many gains as Labour and almost twice as many as the LibDems. A plague on all your houses? Mick In my experience "independant" counsellors are generally tories without the label. "Independant" counsellors tend to be more popular than "independant" parliamentary candidates. I do not think much at all can be read into the above comment and suggest the Labour and Lib Dem gains are the more significant stats. We certainly saw that here last time there was an election, we had Tory councillors suddenly standing as independents. It didn't do them any good. |
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Post by willien on May 3, 2024 14:55:44 GMT
Several models ago I had a phone which you could instruct to use a volume button as a shutter release button. Now in my second year of ownership of Samsung S21 Ultra, bought for its cameras, and two bluetooth adapters later (useless as you have to wake up camera and adapter and pair them before use AND they go to sleep and unpair so by the time you actually see a feathery little B - forget it) I have eventually found that with no special set up whatsoever, either volume up or volume down button can be used as a shutter release button or if one wishes a video start/stop button. Doh!
Edit - In my defence, I think the setting up the volume buttons in the previous phone was done via the camera app. I was using at the time and I had been unable to find the option in the app I use for the S21 - obviously because such set up is no longer needed.
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Post by willien on May 3, 2024 17:05:04 GMT
Seems even tykes have been deserting the tories and voting labour.
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Post by JohnY on May 3, 2024 17:26:10 GMT
At the time of typing, Independents have almost as many gains as Labour and almost twice as many as the LibDems. A plague on all your houses? Mick In my experience "independant" counsellors are generally tories without the label. "Independant" counsellors tend to be more popular than "independant" parliamentary candidates. I do not think much at all can be read into the above comment and suggest the Labour and Lib Dem gains are the more significant stats. I don't doubt your experience. Some former Tory counsellors have gone independent due to the government's abysmal performance. In other areas some Labour councillors have gone independent due to Starmer's attack on antisemitism and his statements on Gaza. Some, even many, independents are simply real independents.
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Post by davem399 on May 3, 2024 17:54:25 GMT
At the time of typing, Independents have almost as many gains as Labour and almost twice as many as the LibDems. A plague on all your houses? Mick In my experience "independant" counsellors are generally tories without the label. "Independant" counsellors tend to be more popular than "independant" parliamentary candidates. I do not think much at all can be read into the above comment and suggest the Labour and Lib Dem gains are the more significant stats. There was an election yesterday for a seat on the town council after the death of one of the councillors. One of the candidates was an independent, whose previous parties had been UKIP, conservative and now independent. He became in indy after suspension and left the Tories. |
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Post by JohnY on May 3, 2024 18:04:32 GMT
In my experience "independant" counsellors are generally tories without the label. "Independant" counsellors tend to be more popular than "independant" parliamentary candidates. I do not think much at all can be read into the above comment and suggest the Labour and Lib Dem gains are the more significant stats. There was an election yesterday for a seat on the town council after the death of one of the councillors. One of the candidates was an independent, whose previous parties had been conservative, UKIP, conservative and now independent. He became in indy after getting kicked out of the Tories. I hope that he didn't win. He seems too keen to be on the council. |
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Post by davem399 on May 3, 2024 18:37:43 GMT
There was an election yesterday for a seat on the town council after the death of one of the councillors. One of the candidates was an independent, whose previous parties had been conservative, UKIP, conservative and now independent. He became in indy after getting kicked out of the Tories. I hope that he didn't win. He seems too keen to be on the council. He did win in a 2 horse race, just him and a Labour candidate. No conservative, lib dem or Green candidates. He is also a county councillor too. |
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Post by gray1720 on May 3, 2024 21:04:29 GMT
Funeral out of the way. Now we can hit the pub and get shitfaced in his memory. Stumbling home shitfaced. I think we did him proud. Adios, mate, far too fecking soon. |
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Post by zou on May 3, 2024 21:17:39 GMT
I hope that he didn't win. He seems too keen to be on the council. He did win in a 2 horse race, just him and a Labour candidate. No conservative, lib dem or Green candidates. He is also a county councillor too. Some superfluous letters and words in that last sentence.  |
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Post by daves on May 3, 2024 21:34:23 GMT
Dorset council has gone Lib Dem from Tory.
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Post by willien on May 3, 2024 21:36:08 GMT
Dorset council has gone Lib Dem from Tory. Baby step in the appropriate direction - left. |
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Post by daves on May 3, 2024 21:42:14 GMT
The west country does tend to vote Lib Dem.
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Post by mick on May 4, 2024 8:43:51 GMT
In my experience "independant" counsellors are generally tories without the label. "Independant" counsellors tend to be more popular than "independant" parliamentary candidates. I do not think much at all can be read into the above comment and suggest the Labour and Lib Dem gains are the more significant stats. I don't doubt your experience. Some former Tory counsellors have gone independent due to the government's abysmal performance. In other areas some Labour councillors have gone independent due to Starmer's attack on antisemitism and his statements on Gaza. Some, even many, independents are simply real independents.
I can't help thinking that this discussion about the 'origin' of independents is a red herring. IMHO it's irrelevant anyway and the discussion about who they are is missing the point. Given the level of apathy by Joe Public about local elections, I doubt very much whether the average voter knows who's who and where they might have come from. I still reckon that the gains made by independents is akin to writing "none of the above" on the ballot paper.
Mick
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