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Post by willien on Aug 1, 2024 11:21:50 GMT
You can use the Apple Watch as a remote for the iPhone. The image isn’t visible on the watch screen but it activates the camera You also get bluetooth triggers which are primarilly designed to clip on to a phone to make it handle more like a casmera but can be used remote from the phone. Again no screen. I bought two different ones to try but they are a faff as the connection keeps timing out to save batteries. I don't do selfies so since I discovered the volume buttons can be used for shutter releasr/video stop/start, they have been gathering dust.
There is plenty on line about controlling a phone from another device but I have not bothered looking in detail since it is not something I need right now.
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Post by dreampolice on Aug 1, 2024 11:24:08 GMT
You can use the Apple Watch as a remote for the iPhone. The image isn’t visible on the watch screen but it activates the camera You also get bluetooth triggers which are primarilly designed to clip on to a phone to make it handle more like a casmera but can be used remote from the phone. Again no screen. I bought two different ones to try but they are a faff as the connection keeps timing out to save batteries. I don't do selfies so since I discovered the volume buttons can be used for shutter releasr/video stop/start, they have been gathering dust.
There is plenty on line about controlling a phone from another device but I have not bothered looking in detail since it is not something I need right now.
Other than for testing I haven't used it either. My cameras can be operated from my phone using the cameras app. I have rarely used that either.
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Post by daves on Aug 1, 2024 11:42:10 GMT
Having a remote screen would be very useful for me when I have the phone on my star tracker, as when the camera is pointing at the sky the screen is in a very stupid position inviting neck injury. There are small touchscreen monitors with USB C connection but I'm not sure if they work with either the phone I have or something better.
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Post by don on Aug 1, 2024 15:28:21 GMT
I don't disagree that phones are a marvellous piece of kit but I find the screens too small for most applications and I don't like composing images on a screen, I want a viewfinder. So, although I use a phone, I won't be buying a "Premium" phone instead of a dedicated camera. Oh I agree about not having a dedicated camera. I have several I use. It’s just another (decent) bit of kit in the toolbox and one that I always have with me, one that can be out of my pocket in no time, one button from the lock screen opens the camera. In India I mainly used my Fuji X-T4, sometimes my 100v and other times my iPhone. All depended on the circumstances and location and what I wanted. If I knew I was going to upload to Facebook or instagram then it made sense to use the phone as it was always connected to the internet and it is easy to edit on the phone. Some of my favourites from that trip were taken on the phone too. The connectivity of a phone to the internet for people to use social media is the real must for today’s youth. Also reporters on newspaper and television. Even sports photographers use their phones to send the images to the News Desk. I don’t think it’s buying a phone to replace the camera but as another bit of kit that most of the population have in their pockets and they share their pictures in a different way ie Facebook and Instagram and videos on YouTube. When you think about the tiny phone in millions of pockets and handbags is actually an awesome thing.
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Post by geoffr on Aug 1, 2024 15:42:23 GMT
Oh I agree about not having a dedicated camera. I have several I use. It’s just another (decent) bit of kit in the toolbox and one that I always have with me, one that can be out of my pocket in no time, one button from the lock screen opens the camera. In India I mainly used my Fuji X-T4, sometimes my 100v and other times my iPhone. All depended on the circumstances and location and what I wanted. If I knew I was going to upload to Facebook or instagram then it made sense to use the phone as it was always connected to the internet and it is easy to edit on the phone. Some of my favourites from that trip were taken on the phone too. The connectivity of a phone to the internet for people to use social media is the real must for today’s youth. Also reporters on newspaper and television. Even sports photographers use their phones to send the images to the News Desk. I don’t think it’s buying a phone to replace the camera but as another bit of kit that most of the population have in their pockets and they share their pictures in a different way ie Facebook and Instagram and videos on YouTube. When you think about the tiny phone in millions of pockets and handbags is actually an awesome thing. Unfortunately coupled with the ability to track an individual anywhere in the world.
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Post by dreampolice on Aug 1, 2024 16:00:21 GMT
The connectivity of a phone to the internet for people to use social media is the real must for today’s youth. Also reporters on newspaper and television. Even sports photographers use their phones to send the images to the News Desk. I don’t think it’s buying a phone to replace the camera but as another bit of kit that most of the population have in their pockets and they share their pictures in a different way ie Facebook and Instagram and videos on YouTube. When you think about the tiny phone in millions of pockets and handbags is actually an awesome thing. Unfortunately coupled with the ability to track an individual anywhere in the world. You could always wrap yourself and your smartphone in foil. I don’t care if ‘they’ track me. If I was off doing naughty things, I’d leave my phone at home. Other than that, not much of interest to anyone.
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Post by geoffr on Aug 1, 2024 16:11:21 GMT
Unfortunately coupled with the ability to track an individual anywhere in the world. You could always wrap yourself and your smartphone in foil. I don’t care if ‘they’ track me. If I was off doing naughty things, I’d leave my phone at home. Other than that, not much of interest to anyone. The fact is that there aren’t enough resources to use the tracking data
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Post by dreampolice on Aug 1, 2024 16:21:03 GMT
You could always wrap yourself and your smartphone in foil. I don’t care if ‘they’ track me. If I was off doing naughty things, I’d leave my phone at home. Other than that, not much of interest to anyone. The fact is that there aren’t enough resources to use the tracking data And even with no smartphone but just a dumb phone that is on and connected to cell masts it’ll tell them where you are/have been (albeit with not as much accuracy
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Post by don on Aug 1, 2024 16:36:23 GMT
The connectivity of a phone to the internet for people to use social media is the real must for today’s youth. Also reporters on newspaper and television. Even sports photographers use their phones to send the images to the News Desk. I don’t think it’s buying a phone to replace the camera but as another bit of kit that most of the population have in their pockets and they share their pictures in a different way ie Facebook and Instagram and videos on YouTube. When you think about the tiny phone in millions of pockets and handbags is actually an awesome thing. Unfortunately coupled with the ability to track an individual anywhere in the world. And how is this a bad thing? Only when doing something wrong would you ever worry. Look upon it as a positive thing like when the AA find or if you’re stranded somewhere else I know it only works when you have signal but it’s more positive than negative for me.
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Post by dreampolice on Aug 1, 2024 16:39:26 GMT
Horses for courses though. Some people like smartphone and the things they offer, including cameras, others don't. Some folk like the cameras as additions to the ones they own, some people use the cameras and will probably never ever own a camera. Things move on, and some will never print their photos (although as has been pointed out, A3 and bigger is not beyond the reach) keeping it all to online social media etc. Some photographers maybe feel threatened by the capabilities of the phone cameras. Who knows. Either way, they are here to stay. Buy one or not, your choice. use one or not, also your choice. But you can't deny they are a seriously good bit of kit.
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Post by dreampolice on Aug 1, 2024 16:42:22 GMT
Unfortunately coupled with the ability to track an individual anywhere in the world. And how is this a bad thing? Only when doing something wrong would you ever worry. Look upon it as a positive thing like when the AA find or if you’re stranded somewhere else I know it only works when you have signal but it’s more positive than negative for me. Except on iPhones (no idea about other brands) when you have no signal, it will let you contact emergency numbers using satellites and not phone masts.
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Post by don on Aug 1, 2024 16:49:20 GMT
Except on iPhones (no idea about other brands) when you have no signal, it will let you contact emergency numbers using satellites and not phone masts. Every day is a school day.I never knew that
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Post by don on Aug 1, 2024 16:58:50 GMT
Horses for courses though. Some people like smartphone and the things they offer, including cameras, others don't. Some folk like the cameras as additions to the ones they own, some people use the cameras and will probably never ever own a camera. Things move on, and some will never print their photos (although as has been pointed out, A3 and bigger is not beyond the reach) keeping it all to online social media etc. Some photographers maybe feel threatened by the capabilities of the phone cameras. Who knows. Either way, they are here to stay. Buy one or not, your choice. use one or not, also your choice. But you can't deny they are a seriously good bit of kit. I couldn’t have said that better. I’ve just sent my Heather a picture of my tea using my iPhone texting. All this talk of phones is making me want to use it more. Even if it is ancient by smartphone standards. To me fourteen is practically new, I’ve got suits older than my phone and shoes even older still.
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Post by willien on Aug 1, 2024 17:48:57 GMT
Except on iPhones (no idea about other brands) when you have no signal, it will let you contact emergency numbers using satellites and not phone masts. Some newer ones do. What I want is one that will let you contact the emergency services and/or the vehicule recovery service of your choice and make X minutes of calls to familly friends ( more if you pay through the nose for it) and be able to recieve calls from all of the above. My nearest familly lives on Skye.
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Post by martinl on Aug 1, 2024 23:02:39 GMT
But do any of your cameras also make phone calls, text message, search the internet, order an Uber, translate from virtually any language to English and vice versa? Will it be able to use its lens to aid with that translation? Does it link up to your car to play music or act as a live sat nav using Google /maps/waze or whatever? Can it also aid you in directions when out and about on foot in a new place? Will your camera remember where you’ve parked your car? Can you use it as bank card or a hotel room digital key (ours did in Detroit) can it hook you up with a date for the night if you’re feeling lonely? I could go on. So whilst it might not replace a camera on the whole for a lot of things, it is bloody useful, can take very good photos and considering what else they can do, they are a great bit of kit. As a matter of fact yes. My Samsung Galaxy Camera can do all that, although making a phone call would be difficult: the only way would be to download some kind of Zoom or Meetings software, but the difficulty would be that the only microphone is for recording sound while filming video so a lot of juggling around would be required. Everything else on your list is easy. The only drawback is that it runs on 3G rather than 4G so before long I'll be limited to using the non-camera features on WiFi rather than anywhere with a phone signal. But I'm alleviating that problem for the time being by having an 02 sim loaded: they are continuing with 3G longer than the other networks. My Samsung is a zoom compact rather than a mirrorless, but they went on to make some advanced mirrorless models right up to the almost pro-spec NX1. It was just a pity that when all this technology didn't quite get the acclaim and sales Samsung expected they threw their toys out of the pram and suddenly stopped making cameras completely.
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