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Post by JohnY on Mar 22, 2024 22:44:32 GMT
I am strongly in favour of national security of food although I enjoy many imports. We should only import as much as we export both in terms of cost and nutrient value. I hope that we are all aware of our governments ELMS policy. I don't understand it; I expect that our politicians of any party don't understand it and as for civil servants ... On issues like energy and keeping the lights on I have strong views. I also have a very basic understanding of the physics and engineering relevant to energy. Sadly I am rather ignorant about agriculture and its sustainability.
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Post by spinno on Mar 22, 2024 22:48:12 GMT
We don't produce enough food. Perhaps if they moved Parliament to a farm the bs spouted by the inmates might help with sustainable fertilisers.
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Post by andytake2 on Mar 23, 2024 9:55:51 GMT
I think the recent Covid supermarket shelves empty routine shows just how much we rely on external sources.
We don't produce enough food here. We haven't for decades. I think the Brexit brigade thought that it would mean we could be free of Johnny Foreigner's food, and we could all live on a healthy British grown diet.
The same group will point to how we beat the Hun in WWII...and neglect to mention the fact that even then we were having to import masses of food from the US.
What the solution is is a different matter.
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Post by kate on Mar 23, 2024 10:57:34 GMT
Having listened to part of R4 early broadcast this morning, we appear to have a big problem of not assisting new young farmers to set up and survive their introduction to farming. Perhaps if we encouraged young, new aspiring farmers with initial large grants and marketing support, including incentives for outlets to source from new farmers and small set-ups, the picture might be different. Unfortunately supermarkets want bulk predictable items.
My big gripe here and probably the same in many places, has been the demise of greengrocers, small delis, dairies, bakers. grocers and the small corner shop with everything. Even in my neck of the woods, I've watched them disappear one by one and not be replaced. If we didn't have two main supermarkets, we'd starve.
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Post by Kath on Mar 23, 2024 11:43:12 GMT
Having listened to part of R4 early broadcast this morning, we appear to have a big problem of not assisting new young farmers to set up and survive their introduction to farming. Perhaps if we encouraged young, new aspiring farmers with initial large grants and marketing support, including incentives for outlets to source from new farmers and small set-ups, the picture might be different. Unfortunately supermarkets want bulk predictable items. My big gripe here and probably the same in many places, has been the demise of greengrocers, small delis, dairies, bakers. grocers and the small corner shop with everything. Even in my neck of the woods, I've watched them disappear one by one and not be replaced. If we didn't have two main supermarkets, we'd starve. We are very lucky here in Helensburgh I think. We do have a fishmonger, a greengrocer, two proper butchers, one small deli and approximately three small 'corner' shops that sell just about everything. Of course, they are constantly competing with supermarkets because they have the advantage in being able to offer cheaper prices and mass parking. However several of our local businesses will deliver. One of the main things I love about our greengrocer is there is no plastic packaging. Fruits and veg are laid out for you to see and you can help yourself or get staff to help you with things and then it's all put into brown paper bags or whichever bag you've brought with you. That is one of my main gripes with the supermarkets at the moment. That, and the realisation of just how much gets declined by them for not being perfect enough. It's high time we all realised there's nothing wrong with a wonky carrot. |
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Post by gray1720 on Mar 23, 2024 17:48:52 GMT
We haven't produced enough food in this country for centuries. If you go back far enough there were reasonably regular gained in places like Cumberland caused by crop failure. We are not going to square that circle any time soon. Last of all with a Prime Minister who thinks we can be like Singapore and import all our food.
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Post by Ivor E Tower on Mar 25, 2024 17:53:06 GMT
Unfortunately we seem to have had a succession of governments who don't care a bit about the nation being able to provide enough of anything for itself. They've sold off gas, electricity, water, bus companies, encouraged farmers to sell land off to developers .........
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Post by willien on Mar 25, 2024 17:54:24 GMT
We haven't produced enough food in this country for centuries. If you go back far enough there were reasonably regular gained in places like Cumberland caused by crop failure. We are not going to square that circle any time soon. Last of all with a Prime Minister who thinks we can be like Singapore and import all our food. "Thinks" may be a bit overgenerous. |
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Post by JohnY on Mar 25, 2024 17:59:42 GMT
We haven't produced enough food in this country for centuries. If you go back far enough there were reasonably regular gained in places like Cumberland caused by crop failure. We are not going to square that circle any time soon. Last of all with a Prime Minister who thinks we can be like Singapore and import all our food. "Thinks" may be a bit overgenerous. Not exactly a constructive criticism but you may well be right. It's even more maddening that he supposedly represents a rural constituency. |
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Post by spinno on Mar 25, 2024 18:27:59 GMT
I think his predecessor (as MP)had more idea. But that wouldn't be difficult.
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Post by geoffr on Mar 25, 2024 18:48:48 GMT
I think his predecessor (as MP)had more idea. But that wouldn't be difficult. See elsewhere on this board for more detail but, there are no qualifications required to be an MP. As long as you are over 21 and not otherwise disqualified/ |
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Post by JohnY on Mar 25, 2024 21:08:55 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68655661I am in support. "Mr Rayner said the environmental focus of the government's farm payments scheme, which replaced EU subsidies, was coming at the expense of domestic food production while cheap imports were being produced to lower standards." Farmer Rayner is right.
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Post by spinno on Mar 25, 2024 21:37:16 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68655661I am in support. "Mr Rayner said the environmental focus of the government's farm payments scheme, which replaced EU subsidies, was coming at the expense of domestic food production while cheap imports were being produced to lower standards." Farmer Rayner is right.
Neil Parish would have been in ecstasy at this... |
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Post by willien on Mar 25, 2024 21:57:43 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68655661I am in support. "Mr Rayner said the environmental focus of the government's farm payments scheme, which replaced EU subsidies, was coming at the expense of domestic food production while cheap imports were being produced to lower standards." Farmer Rayner is right.
Neil Parish would have been arrested at this... FIFY |
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Post by JohnY on Mar 25, 2024 22:09:20 GMT
Neil Parish was a naughty boy.
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