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Post by willien on May 20, 2023 19:37:56 GMT
He's still bitter about the gammon 'slur' I think! Thanks for that. Anyone who uses 'gammon' as a slur is a racist. Bollocks. I am a male peelie wallie caucasian. And you sir, are (is?) a gammon.  |
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Post by spinno on May 20, 2023 22:05:27 GMT
Irony. Does not mean "like iron". That's all very well but Twiggy was stick thin... |
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Post by andy on May 20, 2023 23:50:22 GMT
Irony. Does not mean "like iron". That's all very well but Twiggy was stick thin... E-types and mini skirts? Timeless. |
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Post by Kath on May 21, 2023 7:10:16 GMT
I don't really know any 11 year olds any more so I'm not necessarily familiar with what standard of reading/comprehension they 'ought' to have at that age but it is a bit concerning if staff were struggling. I generally only see people once they are finished with school (either because they finished their full allotted time there or because they were so disenchanted with the whole experience they left early or even refused to go) and I know that some of the ones straight out of school would have struggled. But then I also mainly see those who have some kind of learning issue so perhaps that's not surprising. What I do remember from my own children's experience is that the teaching had very often necessarily become rather prescriptive because the end goal was not whether they could write creatively or produce original thought or express opinion clearly but whether they had included specific points in their answers in order to pass the exam. They were effectively involved in a massive box-ticking exercise and it has only been largely since leaving school that they've used critical thinking and judgement or read for pleasure. There were a few teachers who somehow managed to tick all the boxes and inspire the kids to read more than was absolutely necessary or made lessons sufficiently interesting that pupils clamoured to get to those classes (one ran a philosophy cafe and delivered the Modern Studies curriculum in a way that had all three of my chiildren eagerly watching the news and reading the papers so they'd be better informed for the next class. I suspect that allowing them to make coffee and toast in class and not treating them like factory workers may have had something to do with it - but he was an exception.)
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Post by mick on May 21, 2023 8:49:47 GMT
I found the time to read the whole paper and all of the questions. Some random thoughts.
1. I found the set texts quite interesting. I imagine that they might well have engaged the attention of a youngster.
2. Any teacher who found the papers difficult ought to be 'retrained'. This remark doesn't apply to time constraints.
3. Apropos 2 above I can imagine that a ten year old might struggle with time (see the TES article)
4. IMHO there are harder questions than the ones that the press has fussed about. e.g. What does 'hotspot' mean when used by Miss X; What does 'hotspot' mean when used by Miss Y (X and Y are easily distinguished in the text)
As many have said the test isn't designed to be easy for all students. HOWEVER, if I understand correctly, the progress (or lack of) between KS1 and KS2 SATS is used to judge both the pupil; and school progress over time. It's therefore important that standards are kept 'level' year on year. It does seem that this year has been harder, even if it's just through time, than other years.
Mick
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Post by JohnY on May 21, 2023 21:40:20 GMT
I wonder how well French train drivers would manage that test. No. I have not gone mad. My comment is based on a news story.
The French are very proud of their language and should be pleased that their language will not be bastardised into some sort of pidgin.
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Post by Chester PB on May 24, 2023 21:03:20 GMT
I gave you a like for that but it is conditional. Charles Dickens was a left-wing author writing in a left wing rag. I have never rated him. I hated him from a very young age. I always liked factual material. Novels were and are for girls. One did not have to any opinion about the writer's merits, since the point of the exercise was to test one's comprehension of something a little more difficult than Janet and John, Chalet School or Biggles books. I always like good novels, and good girls too. Bad novels continue to be a disappointment. |
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