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Post by lesleysm2 on Mar 24, 2023 23:38:09 GMT
I have a friend who despite having an upper first in history still uses text speak and can't spell
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Post by lesleysm2 on Mar 24, 2023 23:41:13 GMT
With the job applications you can tell the 'only applying because the job centre made them do it' a mile off Thing is they have to, I'm currently wondering if I get the little bit of UC I claimed for because I keep getting messages about not meeting my commitments because I haven't met my job coach to agree a plan on my job coach helping with my CV, suggesting retraining options and helping me back into work and I have told them repeatedly the reason I can't meet my job coach is....I got a job! Friend of mine had a job coach suggest he might benefit from a course in basic computer literacy you know how to switch the thing on etc. He said he would think about it and made another appointment to discuss it with his job coach At the next meeting he simply handed the job coach a bit of paper that confirmed he had an upper first in computer sciences...... |
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Post by eightbittony on Mar 25, 2023 1:26:10 GMT
I was reflecting again recently on how screwed up society is under capitalism. The 'work ethic' of the 1900's and the concept that one must behave in a certain way to even put food on the table. I wish there was another way, where people were free to be what they can and want, and as a society we can still afford to live. I was lucky, I was academically okay. My wife was unlucky, she suffered with undiagnosed conditions that preventing her learning *in the way the school wanted her to* and so has struggled for her whole life. She's amazingly gifted, but our approach to education and preparing for a future working for a living ruined her life. Sorry Tony, but what the f*** has this to do with capitalism or socialism? I was initially slightly hostile to Kath's original post but later realised that she was teaching students who were genuinely disadvantaged by no fault of their own. We should cut such students a bit of slack. I have a slight problem myself. Fortunately my parents bought me an education and I have had a very satisfying life. I'm sorry that your wife suffered from our attitude to education. At least she met and married you. Her life was not ruined was it? Please try to get beyond crude politics.
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Post by Kath on Mar 25, 2023 8:20:21 GMT
Various. This week has been mainly Access students (so in fairness they've been out of education for some time or maybe didn't do so well in education the first time round) I did an Access course when I started my BA in Photographic Art - I was 40 at the time, left school after doing my O levels at 15. For me it was about getting my head in the right place for learning. I'm slightly on the spectrum (ADD and a bit of OCD) as well as suffering from depression and anxiety at the time. But spelling mistakes like that... I couldn't hand in work like that! Surely these people have spell checkers on their computers? Not everyone has a computer, even now Fen! Two of those were from the same essay, handwritten. The others were written on a computer but one of those students in question seems to think it's not his priority to change any errors - that's what I'm there for. He's quite autistic and won't for example, do any college work at home. He has 'rules' that he has to follow. Rules that you or I might find odd or even ridiculous but in his world he is bound by them. I have pointed out that Word has a pretty decent dictate function and he'd probably have fewer spelling errors if he were to use that instead but it goes against one of his 'rules'. Someone has told him that he won't actually be marked down for spelling errors so that has translated to 'I don't have to worry about that element' and it seems his rule is that if he doesn't need to do something...he doesn't do it. The other, I think, may have been taking the piss. Like I said before, this job can be hard because while I have some students who are absolutely trying their best in difficult circumstances, some are just not. |
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Post by Kath on Mar 25, 2023 8:36:08 GMT
I was reflecting again recently on how screwed up society is under capitalism. The 'work ethic' of the 1900's and the concept that one must behave in a certain way to even put food on the table. I wish there was another way, where people were free to be what they can and want, and as a society we can still afford to live. I was lucky, I was academically okay. My wife was unlucky, she suffered with undiagnosed conditions that preventing her learning *in the way the school wanted her to* and so has struggled for her whole life. She's amazingly gifted, but our approach to education and preparing for a future working for a living ruined her life. Indeed. In the end it might not have ultimately ruined my life, but I know that the demand to leave school and 'do something that will result in a job' is exactly why I went to college in the 80s to do publishing instead of applying to art school at the time. I hated my course. (There were some elements I liked - getting my hands dirty working in the print room using the great big heidelberg presses that the college had, and, surprise, surprise, the photography unit we did. I also quite enjoyed using the college's resources to help a friend create a football fanzine for Hibs even though I know nothing about football and care even less - but it was a tactile, visual activity with a tangible end product and I like that. I was also very adept at proofreading manuscripts.) Even more than the content of the course though, I hated that at that time, to work in publishing, almost inevitably meant moving to London and I couldn't hack the idea. I had a complete mental breakdown and dropped out and spent several years working in bars because I wasn't qualified for anything else. I drank too much and stayed up too late and spent most of my wages on recreational ways of not facing up to what felt like a miserably trapped existence with my parents. There were two suicide attempts which were more about getting someone somewhere to recognise that I needed help after a doctor had told me I was too young to be depressed and who prescribed me laxatives as a next best option. I'm still angry that following my interests and developing the little talent I might have had wasn't seen as a viable option. Better to be miserable with a pay packet it seems. |
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Post by eightbittony on Mar 25, 2023 20:00:22 GMT
I was reflecting again recently on how screwed up society is under capitalism. The 'work ethic' of the 1900's and the concept that one must behave in a certain way to even put food on the table. I wish there was another way, where people were free to be what they can and want, and as a society we can still afford to live. I was lucky, I was academically okay. My wife was unlucky, she suffered with undiagnosed conditions that preventing her learning *in the way the school wanted her to* and so has struggled for her whole life. She's amazingly gifted, but our approach to education and preparing for a future working for a living ruined her life. Indeed. In the end it might not have ultimately ruined my life, but I know that the demand to leave school and 'do something that will result in a job' is exactly why I went to college in the 80s to do publishing instead of applying to art school at the time. I hated my course. (There were some elements I liked - getting my hands dirty working in the print room using the great big heidelberg presses that the college had) and, surprise, surprise, the photography unit we did. I also quite enjoyed using the college's resources to help a friend create a football fanzine for Hibs even though I know nothing about football and care even less - but it was a tactile, visual activity with a tangible end product and I like that. I was also very adept at proofreading manuscripts.) Even more than the content of the course though, I hated that at that time, to work in publishing, almost inevitably meant moving to London and I couldn't hack the idea. I had a complete mental breakdown and dropped out and spent several years working in bars because I wasn't qualified for anything else. I drank too much and stayed up too late and spent most of my wages on recreational ways of not facing up to what felt like a miserably trapped existence with my parents. There were two suicide attempts which were more about getting someone somewhere to recognise that I needed help after a doctor had told me I was too young to be depressed and who prescribed me laxatives as a next best option. I'm still angry that following my interests and developing the little talent I might have had wasn't seen as a viable option. Better to be miserable with a pay packet it seems.
I don't want to just hit the like button, since it sends the wrong message, but thanks for posting that.
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Post by Chester PB on Mar 26, 2023 16:05:53 GMT
Reviewing a book you haven't read is faaaaaaaaar worse than spelling or grammar mistakes. Dunno about that. (Spell checker has not complained about 'dunno') I haven't read 'Spare' but I will review for you. On an almost unrelated topic and in the interests of topic creep , I think that the author of that book and his sprogs should attend the coronation. Suppose they do not attend and ISIS or similar group carry out a successful 9/11 type attack on the venue. Who would become King?
I had no expectation that the author's abysmal use if English might have improved by the time he wrote his second novel. I decided that life really is too short to waste time confirming this. It was a recent novel, so at the very least basic 'spell checking' software could have been used to eliminate some of the errors. When did publishers abandon the use of proof readers? |
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Post by zou on Mar 26, 2023 16:10:27 GMT
Dunno about that. (Spell checker has not complained about 'dunno') I haven't read 'Spare' but I will review for you. On an almost unrelated topic and in the interests of topic creep , I think that the author of that book and his sprogs should attend the coronation. Suppose they do not attend and ISIS or similar group carry out a successful 9/11 type attack on the venue. Who would become King?
I had no expectation that the author's abysmal use if English might have improved by the time he wrote his second novel. I decided that life really is too short to waste time confirming this. It was a recent novel, so at the very least basic 'spell checking' software could have been used to eliminate some of the errors. When did publishers abandon the use of proof readers? At the time of me writing this there's a typo in your message. Want to fix it?  |
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Post by Chester PB on Mar 26, 2023 16:19:13 GMT
I have a friend who despite having an upper first in history still uses text speak and can't spell Is there any valid reason, like dyslexia or mental illness for this, or is he just very lazy? When I took my O-Levels at 16, it was possible to lose marks for poor spelling and grammar, even in scientific subjects, so we had an incentive to write clearly and comprehensibly. We were advised that, although only a very few marks were at risk, they would be enough to risk getting a lower grade. Does your friend specialise in Oral History? |
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Post by dreampolice on Mar 26, 2023 16:35:38 GMT
I had no expectation that the author's abysmal use if English might have improved by the time he wrote his second novel. I decided that life really is too short to waste time confirming this. It was a recent novel, so at the very least basic 'spell checking' software could have been used to eliminate some of the errors. When did publishers abandon the use of proof readers? At the time of me writing this there's a typo in your message. Want to fix it? The problem is, "if" is spelled correctly even if it wasn't the intended word. Personally, proof reading a post before publishing it would be the best option. Just lazy otherwise.  |
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Post by MJB on Mar 26, 2023 16:42:51 GMT
The problem is, "if" is spelled correctly even if it wasn't the intended word. Personally, proof reading a post before publishing it would be the best option. Just lazy otherwise. Maybe they have a mental illness. |
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Post by zou on Mar 26, 2023 16:43:11 GMT
At the time of me writing this there's a typo in your message. Want to fix it? The problem is, "if" is spelled correctly even if it wasn't the intended word. Personally, proof reading a post before publishing it would be the best option. Just lazy otherwise. I mean, how hard can it be? |
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Post by Kath on Mar 26, 2023 16:47:12 GMT
The problem is, "if" is spelled correctly even if it wasn't the intended word. Personally, proof reading a post before publishing it would be the best option. Just lazy otherwise. I mean, how hard can it be? In all fairness, my typing on here is appalling and although I will sometimes spot a typo and go back and fix it, sometimes I just can't be arsed. I'd be arsed if I thought my posts were going to be marked though! |
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Post by zou on Mar 26, 2023 16:48:29 GMT
I mean, how hard can it be? In all fairness, my typing on here is appalling and although I will sometimes spot a typo and go back and fix it, sometimes I just can't be arsed. I'd be arsed if I thought my posts were going to be marked though! I do the same all the time, but I sleep well knowing I've not ironically self-owned whilst pontificating about accuracy. |
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Post by dreampolice on Mar 26, 2023 16:51:02 GMT
I mean, how hard can it be? In all fairness, my typing on here is appalling and although I will sometimes spot a typo and go back and fix it, sometimes I just can't be arsed. I'd be arsed if I thought my posts were going to be marked though! I find that typing on this forum is worse than the old one. I am forever missing capital letters at the start of a sentence and it doesn't always self correct. I don't recall having the same issues on AP. You are right though, it doesn't really matter too much on here as long as others can clearly see what you are saying. |
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