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Post by spinno on May 21, 2024 19:23:23 GMT
Thought that might be the case. Certainly in England and Wales the legalisation exists. We do have Corporate Homicide... Has it ever been tested? |
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Post by willien on May 21, 2024 19:29:25 GMT
We do have Corporate Homicide... Has it ever been tested? I very much doubt it. |
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Post by JohnY on May 21, 2024 21:14:16 GMT
Corporate crimes result in little financial penalties. No-one goes to jail or is hanged.
Don't think that a change in government will change much.It will in detail but not in wider context. The country is really governed by the unelected blob.
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Post by spinno on May 21, 2024 22:10:42 GMT
Corporate crimes result in little financial penalties. No-one goes to jail or is hanged. Don't think that a change in government will change much.It will in detail but not in wider context. The country is really governed by the unelected blob. Thanks for that. Is that what did for Ms Truss |
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Post by lesleysm2 on May 21, 2024 22:36:39 GMT
Thought that might be the case. Certainly in England and Wales the legalisation exists. We do have Corporate Homicide... A much better idea |
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Post by mick on May 22, 2024 7:26:52 GMT
Hillsborough-1989, infected blood-1970s onwards, post office scandal-1999,... These aren't new scandals, they go back decades. Certainly in my lifetime politicians and senior public officials haven't been trustworthy. The old school tie should be used as a hangman's noose. I feel somehow guilty for not feeling as I do much earlier. As I said I 'get' rotten apples, any organization can have one, but, for example, vast tracts of the NHS? Apparently, much of the upper echelons of the Post Office? You would have thought that there would be at least one individual to blow the whistle.
I'm happy to say I've never come across such deceit in my own career. There was one incident when I believed that we owed someone some money and my boss said, "ignore him. What will he do, sue us?" (We were a truly huge organization and an individual would think very hard before taking us on). Failing to persuade my boss, I went above him. I was vindicated, he got moved to a different role, and I was his target for a long time after. My point being that not all organisations are crooked.
Mick
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Post by kate on May 22, 2024 8:09:50 GMT
I do worry about water companies. They appear to be suspect in that they seem to pander to investors rather than the public. I read almost all a post online where someone tried to get an answer as to whom the water companies were checked by. It appeared that no-one held them to account or checked on their performance. The H&S executive simply spouted mainly (only?) USA papers saying that chloramines in the water was safe. I read this chemical is not legal to be used in purchased products. But what is water if it is not a purchased product? It seems our water companies 'produce' the chemical which is added to many water supplies in the UK. Obviously this person quizzing the authorities as to who says this is safe got nowhere in his many letters to authorities asking for the test data etc.
So I do wonder if it is time to take water companies to task and not allow them to hide behind self-imposed regulations and and testing and to have them liable to an independent authority such as the H&S executive - and not just their shareholders who are interested only in dividends.
Sorry to go on, but so-called independent quango bug be!
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Post by spinno on May 22, 2024 8:43:09 GMT
At the time of water privatisation there was the Camelford incident, which was largely covered up so as not to frighten potential thieves, sorry investors...
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Post by JohnY on May 22, 2024 9:02:13 GMT
The nationalised water industry was bad. Privatisation made it worse. Consider just one example, Macquarie. How was a private equity company able to asset strip Thames Water and Southern. Southern Water is still owned by Australian firm Macquarie which has faced fierce criticism for the period when it was Thames Water’s biggest shareholder. In five of the 10 years it owned Thames, the company paid out more in dividends than it made in profits, while debt rose from £2.5bn to over £10bn in the same period. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce55vp78n40o |
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Post by andy on May 22, 2024 9:18:15 GMT
Remember when the WHO, NHS, the UK government, the Scottish government, every major media outlet in the land and everyone that thought they were well informed through biased media said the Astra Zeneca covid vaccine was safe? And anyone that thought different was a bampot!
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