Geometric

[El Sid]

I'd be interested in your thoughts about this one...



Geometric-04 by Nigel Hayes, on Flickr

[peterob]

Bricklayer did a great job.

[zx9]

That there are two images in there that both work. The upper square one cropped just above the vertical row of bricks and a lower one from the bottom edge of the current frame to include the horizontal gutter or cap stones (?). Now that I have seen the split of two images, I can't make the full image above work.

[Fenris]

I like that, the only thing I would change is cutting off the bit of pathway at the bottom and the lowest two layers of bricks. Then retoning the light patch of bricks at the lower left side to match the rest of the wall.

[zou]

I like it but feel it would benefit immensely from having the verticals corrected. Or being more inclined, either/or.

[Chester PB]

I rotated this 0.2 degrees anticlockwise and then 'corrected' the verticals. The tone range and contrast look perfect.
To me these small changes improve it, but if it looks better or worse is a matter of opinion - I only offer it for comparison (I have not attempted to reinstate the border). 

I won't keep the original or the revised version.

[peterob]

Apr 18, 2024 20:29:04 GMT Chester PB said:

I rotated this 0.2 degrees anticlockwise and then 'corrected' the verticals. The tone range and contrast look perfect.
To me these small changes improve it, but if it looks better or worse is a matter of opinion - I only offer it for comparison (I have not attempted to reinstate the border). 

I won't keep the original or the revised version.

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It needs a keystoning correction, the camera was tilted downwards.  I was going to play but haven't been on the computer 

[El Sid]

Thanks for your observations.

The main reason for posting was to see if anyone would comment on the 'squareness' of the verticals. I spent some considerable time trying to get them right and was never convinced, despite using a grid, that things were right but couldn't decide whether it was really off or just an optical illusion. Now I know...

I wasn't too bothered by the slight inward slope in the top half but Chester PB's rehash proves me wrong.

I hadn't even seen the crop alternatives suggested by zx9 - always useful to get an independent view as sometimes you get so fixated on one idea you forget to look more critically.

Thanks again for your thoughts - I feel a rework coming on...

[Chester PB]

Apr 19, 2024 11:57:06 GMT El Sid said:

Thanks for your observations.

The main reason for posting was to see if anyone would comment on the 'squareness' of the verticals. I spent some considerable time trying to get them right and was never convinced, despite using a grid, that things were right but couldn't decide whether it was really off or just an optical illusion. Now I know...

I wasn't too bothered by the slight inward slope in the top half but Chester PB's rehash proves me wrong.

I hadn't even seen the crop alternatives suggested by zx9 - always useful to get an independent view as sometimes you get so fixated on one idea you forget to look more critically.

Thanks again for your thoughts - I feel a rework coming on...

The changes took only a few seconds to do using my ancient copy of Photoshop Elements 7, with a grid over the image to help me. The larger the image, the easier this would be to do accurately.

[peterob]

This is as about as square as I can get it, taking account of that it is the end of a long day.  I've obviously done something wrong because it is supposed to resize to 800 px long side

[zou]

Apr 19, 2024 11:57:06 GMT El Sid said:

Thanks for your observations.

The main reason for posting was to see if anyone would comment on the 'squareness' of the verticals. I spent some considerable time trying to get them right and was never convinced, despite using a grid, that things were right but couldn't decide whether it was really off or just an optical illusion. Now I know...

I wasn't too bothered by the slight inward slope in the top half but Chester PB's rehash proves me wrong.

I hadn't even seen the crop alternatives suggested by zx9 - always useful to get an independent view as sometimes you get so fixated on one idea you forget to look more critically.

Thanks again for your thoughts - I feel a rework coming on...

You can see the bottom rows of bricks taper out as the pavement rises to the right. The window ledges aren't really level either so it's just a case of determining what is and working from that.

[peterob]

Apr 20, 2024 10:03:11 GMT zou said:

Apr 19, 2024 11:57:06 GMT El Sid said:

Thanks for your observations.

The main reason for posting was to see if anyone would comment on the 'squareness' of the verticals. I spent some considerable time trying to get them right and was never convinced, despite using a grid, that things were right but couldn't decide whether it was really off or just an optical illusion. Now I know...

I wasn't too bothered by the slight inward slope in the top half but Chester PB's rehash proves me wrong.

I hadn't even seen the crop alternatives suggested by zx9 - always useful to get an independent view as sometimes you get so fixated on one idea you forget to look more critically.

Thanks again for your thoughts - I feel a rework coming on...

You can see the bottom rows of bricks taper out as the pavement rises to the right. The window ledges aren't really level either so it's just a case of determining what is and working from that.

Camera isn't square on to the wall so there are two perspective corrections to be made plus a small rotation - all very fiddly.  I cropped more than strictly necessary for the perspective corrections because I wanted some symmetry in the windows. This morning I see that, from line of bricks at the bottom, I missed getting it level in correction by a smidgeon.   It is best to start with a square on, level, view for these kind of shots.

[El Sid]

Apr 20, 2024 11:52:36 GMT peterob said:

Apr 20, 2024 10:03:11 GMT zou said:

You can see the bottom rows of bricks taper out as the pavement rises to the right. The window ledges aren't really level either so it's just a case of determining what is and working from that.

Camera isn't square on to the wall so there are two perspective corrections to be made plus a small rotation - all very fiddly.  I cropped more than strictly necessary for the perspective corrections because I wanted some symmetry in the windows. This morning I see that, from line of bricks at the bottom, I missed getting it level in correction by a smidgeon.   It is best to start with a square on, level, view for these kind of shots.

Indeed.  It caused me some serious gyp...

I'll have to try again but get properly square on.

Thanks all for your views.

[dans]

I really like this, it doesn't bother me that the verticals are as they are, I like the composition a lot!

[El Sid]

Apr 26, 2024 20:26:49 GMT dans said:

I really like this, it doesn't bother me that the verticals are as they are, I like the composition a lot!

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