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Post by daves on Dec 6, 2023 8:07:57 GMT
I guess I'm happy to pay though I hardly post images these days.
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Post by dreampolice on Dec 6, 2023 9:07:43 GMT
Amazon gift cards wouldn't be a bad way to donate (assuming you use Amazon)
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Post by spinno on Dec 6, 2023 9:23:01 GMT
Amazon gift cards wouldn't be a bad way to donate (assuming you use Amazon) The currency of the unscrupulous... But seriously I am happy to donate (whichever method)- perhaps we could become a charity and get the Government to chip in 25%, they love to help those who are less fortunate... |
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Post by peterob on Dec 6, 2023 10:59:09 GMT
Amazon gift cards wouldn't be a bad way to donate (assuming you use Amazon) That sounds a terrible idea. Practically speaking I suppose a trust (not sure about the charity potential) could be set up to accept donations and pay for the site but it would have to have trustees and keep accounts and manage the ingoings and outgoings etc. with some level of external audit. How you'd manage this with gift cards (which usually expire if not used) I don't know. I've also seen things in the press about banks now being reluctant to host club/charity/small business accounts. Running a subscription service where (in theory) income = expenses is essentially a business activity and would also need proper attention to accounting and regulatory affairs. Possibly there are third party organisations that would take all the administration and regulatory load off - which is why I wondered if proboards offered commercial services where they would handle the membership and money. |
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Post by zx9 on Dec 6, 2023 11:08:22 GMT
Hi Martin, thank you for keeping this place alive.
As for the future, I am a A and would be willing to chip in or iii in equal measures, perhaps leaning towards iii as I too dislike the small click on images but realise that not everyone has even a free Flickr account.
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Post by kate on Dec 6, 2023 12:31:20 GMT
@mjb How do you pay them? Is it directly to a bank account? Or do you get an invoice or something? Or is it by card to the company? I'm happy to send you money direct if that's the easiest way. Otherwise, what makes life easier for you?
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Post by dreampolice on Dec 6, 2023 12:39:36 GMT
Amazon gift cards wouldn't be a bad way to donate (assuming you use Amazon) That sounds a terrible idea. Practically speaking I suppose a trust (not sure about the charity potential) could be set up to accept donations and pay for the site but it would have to have trustees and keep accounts and manage the ingoings and outgoings etc. with some level of external audit. How you'd manage this with gift cards (which usually expire if not used) I don't know. I've also seen things in the press about banks now being reluctant to host club/charity/small business accounts. Running a subscription service where (in theory) income = expenses is essentially a business activity and would also need proper attention to accounting and regulatory affairs. Possibly there are third party organisations that would take all the administration and regulatory load off - which is why I wondered if proboards offered commercial services where they would handle the membership and money. Amazon gift cards maybe a bad idea for you. But if he spends money on Amazon, then that goes into his account. If I was in his position and just looking for donations then I would happily accept a voucher that automatically gets added to my Amazon account, but I use Amazon. It is also easy for me to send an e gift card with just his e mail address. I’m easy though, it was just a suggestion. it also depends on how much he wants from each of the people prepared to pay as not everyone would want to bing him some cash. Also if people want to send money directly and that’s fine too, not everyone has to do it the same way. |
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Post by willien on Dec 6, 2023 12:52:34 GMT
That sounds a terrible idea. Practically speaking I suppose a trust (not sure about the charity potential) could be set up to accept donations and pay for the site but it would have to have trustees and keep accounts and manage the ingoings and outgoings etc. with some level of external audit. How you'd manage this with gift cards (which usually expire if not used) I don't know. I've also seen things in the press about banks now being reluctant to host club/charity/small business accounts. Running a subscription service where (in theory) income = expenses is essentially a business activity and would also need proper attention to accounting and regulatory affairs. Possibly there are third party organisations that would take all the administration and regulatory load off - which is why I wondered if proboards offered commercial services where they would handle the membership and money. Amazon gift cards maybe a bad idea for you. But if he spends money on Amazon, then that goes into his account. If I was in his position and just looking for donations then I would happily accept a voucher that automatically gets added to my Amazon account, but I use Amazon. It is also easy for me to send an e gift card with just his e mail address. I’m easy though, it was just a suggestion. it also depends on how much he wants from each of the people prepared to pay as not everyone would want to bing him some cash. Also if people want to send money directly and that’s fine too, not everyone has to do it the same way. I suspect to make Martin's life not more complicated a consistancy of method would be beneficial. Is "bing" a typo for "bung" or is this a new microsoft service/gimmick? FWIW I refuse to use Bing for anything I do not absolutely have to. |
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Post by MJB on Dec 6, 2023 13:04:34 GMT
This is a classic example of why things designed by committee never work  Here's what I intend to do; direct uploads are going to be deleted after 6 months. If you don't want your pictures removed start using third party hosting. This will keep the forum overheads at the current level. It's always been my intention that the forum won't be a commercial entity and I'm happy to underwrite the costs as they stand. The costs once divided up between everyone is so miniscule that its not worth the hassle of a formal arrangement If you wish to show your appreciation you're more than welcome to send me a gift, or a small cash donation (PayPal or BACS transfer). Just pm me if require any details. |
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Post by peterob on Dec 6, 2023 13:10:31 GMT
That sounds a terrible idea. Practically speaking I suppose a trust (not sure about the charity potential) could be set up to accept donations and pay for the site but it would have to have trustees and keep accounts and manage the ingoings and outgoings etc. with some level of external audit. How you'd manage this with gift cards (which usually expire if not used) I don't know. I've also seen things in the press about banks now being reluctant to host club/charity/small business accounts. Running a subscription service where (in theory) income = expenses is essentially a business activity and would also need proper attention to accounting and regulatory affairs. Possibly there are third party organisations that would take all the administration and regulatory load off - which is why I wondered if proboards offered commercial services where they would handle the membership and money. Amazon gift cards maybe a bad idea for you. But if he spends money on Amazon, then that goes into his account. If I was in his position and just looking for donations then I would happily accept a voucher that automatically gets added to my Amazon account, but I use Amazon. It is also easy for me to send an e gift card with just his e mail address. I’m easy though, it was just a suggestion. it also depends on how much he wants from each of the people prepared to pay as not everyone would want to bing him some cash. Also if people want to send money directly and that’s fine too, not everyone has to do it the same way. You miss the point. You can give Martin as much as you like as a present and in whatever form you like. That is a private matter for you. Giving him (to him personally) as reward for providing the website service is getting into different territory, especially if it multiplies to involve dozens of people, because it morphs from being a gift to a payment. I'm just playing devils advocate here. It is probably best to treat it as a commercial enterprise and keep it tidy or outsource it to some company who can deal with the admin. |
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Post by spinno on Dec 6, 2023 13:46:17 GMT
"Asking for a friend", are spuds an acceptable currency?
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Post by dreampolice on Dec 6, 2023 14:10:05 GMT
Amazon gift cards maybe a bad idea for you. But if he spends money on Amazon, then that goes into his account. If I was in his position and just looking for donations then I would happily accept a voucher that automatically gets added to my Amazon account, but I use Amazon. It is also easy for me to send an e gift card with just his e mail address. I’m easy though, it was just a suggestion. it also depends on how much he wants from each of the people prepared to pay as not everyone would want to bing him some cash. Also if people want to send money directly and that’s fine too, not everyone has to do it the same way. You miss the point. You can give Martin as much as you like as a present and in whatever form you like. That is a private matter for you. Giving him (to him personally) as reward for providing the website service is getting into different territory, especially if it multiplies to involve dozens of people, because it morphs from being a gift to a payment. I'm just playing devils advocate here. It is probably best to treat it as a commercial enterprise and keep it tidy or outsource it to some company who can deal with the admin. Ok. In my mind money is money. The Amazon gift was a way of sending payment without him having to do anything, pass me his bank details or me set up a standing order. I took all of this as donations rather than payment. If he was to spend on Amazon the way I do I, then it is no different to me sending him £20 or whatever to his bank. But as I say , it was a suggestion and nothing more. As for outsourcing or creating a commercial enterprise seems a bit extreme for a forum such as this with a few regular posters. I stand to be corrected by Martin though. I guess I’m looking at it if I’d have done what Martin has. |
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Post by MJB on Dec 6, 2023 17:42:00 GMT
"Asking for a friend", are spuds an acceptable currency? Depends what you're expecting in return. |
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Post by spinno on Dec 6, 2023 17:43:41 GMT
"Asking for a friend", are spuds an acceptable currency? Depends what you're expecting in return. Exposure! |
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Post by MJB on Dec 6, 2023 17:45:42 GMT
Depends what you're expecting in return. Exposure! If you want exposure it would be cheaper for you to just sit outside in your y-fronts during this cold weather. |
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