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Post by spinno on Nov 24, 2023 19:59:53 GMT
Nottingham University is twinned with Ningbo in China, so there are a number of Chinese students here, we recognise them because they wear facemasks...
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Post by mick on Nov 25, 2023 9:29:11 GMT
I've not watched any of it but read some of the daily summaries. Seems to me it has told us what we knew all along, that running a country is far too important to be left to politicians. They are a lying, conniying, ignorant bunch of self-opinionated peopleo nly interestedi n furthering their own interests and have no idea what goes on in the real world. We are an island and it was obvious to me and a few others I have spoken to that with the virus running rampant in China just before the start of Chinese New Year, we should have stopped people heading to China to celebrate and then not admitted anyone into the UK who had been there to celebrate. Lockdown has caused immense damage to so many people - mentally, physically and financially. Successive UK governments failed to plan for a pandemic and the bunch of idiots who were in charge in early 2020 had no idea what to do, even asking the supposed "experts" If you had watched it, especially the evidence from the scientists such as Vallance, Whitty and Van Tam, you would not have expressed that opinion because it's a knee-jerk and naive reaction.
You would also realise that no country in the world was prepared - but some reacted better than we did! What I've learned from listening carefully to the scientists is that this virus was entirely novel and in the early days we knew nothing about transmission, infection rates or the course of the resulting disease. You would also have learned that, had we gone into immediate lockdown, we might have mitigated the first wave but there would, as surely as night follows day, have been a second wave that could have been worse. That's apparently an epidemiological fact.
I've also learned that Van Tam (whose field this is) had a 'bad feeling' about the virus very early on and thought that we were in for trouble. Whitty, on the other hand, wanted facts and numbers. It's common ground that no government would have taken drastic action based on the 'bad feeling' of a deputy medical officer.
Having said all that, it also seems to be common ground that the UK locked down too late - but only by a week or so. Bear in mind that exponential growth means that a week is pretty important.
Mick
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Post by John Farrell on Nov 25, 2023 19:00:00 GMT
We now have a party in the government here who will be pressuring our covid enquiry to come up with findings acceptable to some of their voters...the virus was fake, the vaccines were ineffective and killed people, the whole thing was set up to allow governments to control people, etc.
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Post by willien on Nov 25, 2023 23:33:03 GMT
We now have a party in the government here who will be pressuring our covid enquiry to come up with findings acceptable to some of their voters...the virus was fake, the vaccines were ineffective and killed people, the whole thing was set up to allow governments to control people, etc. That sucks John. Best wishes. |
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Post by andy on Nov 26, 2023 8:44:20 GMT
We now have a party in the government here who will be pressuring our covid enquiry to come up with findings acceptable to some of their voters...the virus was fake, the vaccines were ineffective and killed people, the whole thing was set up to allow governments to control people, etc. Are you suggesting the vaccines didn't kill people? www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001201_EN.htmlThere are lots of court cases about debilitating injuries too. |
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Post by John Farrell on Nov 26, 2023 17:53:21 GMT
We now have a party in the government here who will be pressuring our covid enquiry to come up with findings acceptable to some of their voters...the virus was fake, the vaccines were ineffective and killed people, the whole thing was set up to allow governments to control people, etc. Are you suggesting the vaccines didn't kill people? No. |
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Post by John Farrell on Nov 26, 2023 21:44:32 GMT
The party I mentioned above is New Zealand First, who managed to get over 5% by appealing to cranks and cookers. The largest governing party, however, has announced that they will be scrapping the previous government's anti smoking campaign, which has resulted in a $1 billion drop in tobacco taxes. The new government needs this money to fund tax cuts for the rich, so they need more people smoking...
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Post by willien on Nov 26, 2023 22:00:11 GMT
The party I mentioned above is New Zealand First, who managed to get over 5% by appealing to cranks and cookers. The largest governing party, however, has announced that they will be scrapping the previous government's anti smoking campaign, which has resulted in a $1 billion drop in tobacco taxes. The new government needs this money to fund tax cuts for the rich, so they need more people smoking... Funny thing is we have a bunch of far right nut jobs who are agin smoking... |
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Post by spinno on Nov 27, 2023 8:29:26 GMT
The party I mentioned above is New Zealand First, who managed to get over 5% by appealing to cranks and cookers. The largest governing party, however, has announced that they will be scrapping the previous government's anti smoking campaign, which has resulted in a $1 billion drop in tobacco taxes. The new government needs this money to fund tax cuts for the rich, so they need more people smoking... Funny thing is we have a bunch of far right nut jobs who are agin smoking... But they don't seem to mind smoking cars, vans and lorries |
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Post by davem399 on Nov 27, 2023 9:03:30 GMT
Funny thing is we have a bunch of far right nut jobs who are agin smoking... But they don't seem to mind smoking cars, vans and lorries And smoking guns? |
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Post by spinno on Nov 27, 2023 9:21:19 GMT
But they don't seem to mind smoking cars, vans and lorries And smoking guns? They have an armoury of them, both at home and abroad, physical and metaphorical... |
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Post by andy on Nov 27, 2023 9:53:00 GMT
But they don't seem to mind smoking cars, vans and lorries And smoking guns? And smoking hillsides. |
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Post by don on Nov 29, 2023 17:02:56 GMT
Just another way to waste money it’s costing us an absolute fortune to achieve diddly squat
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Post by mick on Dec 7, 2023 8:11:16 GMT
I watched a lot yesterday and thought that Johnson was let off fairly lightly. I was quite surprised because I've seen the barrister (Mr Keith?) give others a much harder time. Obviously, I think that Johnson should have been given a torrid time.
I was also quite upset by the attitude of some of the protestors. My own attitude (to issues in general - trying to move away from the particular of Johnson) is to keep an open mind until I've heard enough fact and then decide. One of the protestors, when asked, said, "there's nothing that he can say that will make me change my mind." That was before the BoJo interrogation had started. Glad that person wasn't on a jury!
Mick
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Post by spinno on Dec 7, 2023 10:22:06 GMT
I watched a lot yesterday and thought that Johnson was let off fairly lightly. I was quite surprised because I've seen the barrister (Mr Keith?) give others a much harder time. Obviously, I think that Johnson should have been given a torrid time. I was also quite upset by the attitude of some of the protestors. My own attitude (to issues in general - trying to move away from the particular of Johnson) is to keep an open mind until I've heard enough fact and then decide. One of the protestors, when asked, said, "there's nothing that he can say that will make me change my mind." That was before the BoJo interrogation had started. Glad that person wasn't on a jury! Mick I think we need more like-minded protesters on juries, save time and money on expensive trials... As for Boris, no-one is able to make him squirm, he's an inveterate pathological lying whatever, so he'll always be correct in his judgement, even though everyone else knows the truth. |
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