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Post by Kath on Nov 16, 2023 9:44:49 GMT
shooting it is fine but I find trying to edit it to produce something watchable is something else I quite like the editing part. Much more so than trying to shoot the footage. |
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Post by nickr on Nov 16, 2023 10:02:03 GMT
I've shot some very basic straight recordings on paid jobs, a little bit of sport and do a little on holiday. I have had a couple of goes at doing YouTube type stuff of my classic cameras, a process I've found in part enjoyable, but mostly stressful and incredibly tiring, and I've not been at all happy with the results - in large part because I hate seeing myself as the presenter. The bit I enjoyed most was filming B Roll stuff - that ties in with how I like to take stills in many ways, uses similar skills. Worst bit was trying to film myself on location - I was far too embarrassed about the whole thing, and shooting myself shooting was a PITA - I mean if I want a shot of myself approaching the intended subject, I have to set up a tripod and video camera, go back and then walk to where I want to be, then go back to the camera and move it, then walk back where I want to be - such a faff. Didn't mind so much just talking to camera in my office, and I got to feel more natural with that after a few minutes. Still didn't like watching myself, but a lot less stilted. Long way off being prepared to let anybody see any of that stuff. Oh, and when I first got a DSLR with video capability, I did shoot a couple of films inspired by a Turner Prize finalist I had seen. They were very dull, and very amateurish - one was little more than water going over a weir, the other was wheat blowing in the wind, both with gratuitous use of not very slow slow-mo. I liked them for about a week.  |
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Post by El Sid on Nov 16, 2023 12:40:54 GMT
I could quite easily live without the video option on my cameras. For those that actually have it I think I've used it deliberately about once though I've accidentally triggered it rather more frequently...  Stills are hard enough, video looks like a total nightmare...  |
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Post by zx9 on Nov 16, 2023 12:45:02 GMT
We did the video the kids growing up thing on a Sony mini DV camcorder which we hardly ever watched the tapes of, mostly when Grandad visited. We lost interest in the project after a while though did use the Canon G9 to record primary school nativity and sports days again for Grandad's interest. I really should copy the tapes to DVD and also make a copy on the intel NUC home media server but I don't have a PC with a Fire Wire port so that will probably never happen.
I do use a GoPro-alike for the odd ski run or messing about in the pool on holiday and have used Black Magic DaVinci (free to down load and use) or more recently Photoshop to edit them the later versions of Creative Cloud has a very good video editor built in. I will also use the iPhone or my EOS M6 for video clips when video will give a better idea of what is going on, examples include rain water poring down the streets of Dubrovnik, a ride on the Riesenrad in Vienna, power boat ride in Malta or flickering light reflected from the harbour.
So yes I like to tinker with video quite a bit but I would not say that I make videos with background music and titles because I don't.
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Post by geoffr on Nov 16, 2023 12:50:10 GMT
Video, if done well requires planning and preparation, as Zou says it can be fun, but it’s also times consuming. I’m happy doing sound but I have little interest in video. Live streaming is another matter because someone else has done the planning and preparation, it’s just a case of pointing the right camera at the right zoom. I would have no problem if cameras didn’t have video capabilities but with mirrorless that is next to impossible.
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Post by Chester PB on Nov 17, 2023 16:26:10 GMT
Once upon a time, circa 1980, I purchased a nice mint condition Bolex 16 mm camera for very little money, and found that 3 minutes of 16 mm Ektachrome 64 cost over £20 to buy and get processed. Great picture quality, easy to correctly expose (1/60 second for 24 frames per second), but not 'economically viable' even when I was able to borrow the local film society's projector and screen to view it with an image about 3 metres wide. Eight mm films were cheaper to make, although with much worse image quality, but for most people cost still limited their efforts to only a few minutes on subjects like family events and holidays. Then came video recording, and any invitation to view somebody's 'film' of their holidays would fill one with dread because it might be tediously long and very boring. And now the world has smartphones and real cameras that can record digital video, so there are even more tediously long and very boring efforts offered. I've seen 'videos' obviously shot on smartphones where the device was held in two hands at arm's length and even the best image stabilisation software cannot cope. Making 'videos' is easy today, but the self-control needed learn some basics about using the hardware and then drastically editing the results is usually lacking.
Have you noticed that many 'videos' are made by people who never notice what's happening in the background?
My DSLR has 1080x1920 digital video recording, which I've briefly experimented with but never used for anything serious.
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Post by Ivor E Tower on Nov 17, 2023 22:09:02 GMT
I generally take photos. I have shot the very occasional video (see below) but have no idea about how to edit, add a soundtrack or a spoken commentary nor do I know what software I would need to undertake such tasks.
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Post by zx9 on Nov 18, 2023 10:42:12 GMT
I generally take photos. I have shot the very occasional video (see below) but have no idea about how to edit, add a soundtrack or a spoken commentary nor do I know what software I would need to undertake such tasks. ^^ A perfect example of something that needs moving pictures to tell the viewer what is happening, that posted to social media would be great to show your friends and rellies what you have been up to.
Mine of the Riesenrad in Vienna.
That was badly crash edited in PhotoShop CS 2022 IIRC. There are plenty of free video edit programs if you are just topping and tailing or stitching shots together, Black Magic's DaVinci Resolve is very well featured and free because they want you to buy thousands of pounds of hardware which obviously you don't need to.
Edit: we seem not to be able to link to a video on Flickr.
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Post by andy on Nov 18, 2023 14:26:26 GMT
On my pc I use Windows movie maker for basic editing. On my phone I just press the little pencil icon and use the built-in software.
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Post by Fenris on Nov 19, 2023 13:55:12 GMT
I've used my Nikon D800 for videoing events, mainly interview/chat type things. This was the last one I did a few weeks ago: Edit - Forgot to say that I use Photoshop for video editing. |
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Post by daves on Nov 19, 2023 14:52:24 GMT
I used to be a member Of a film making club until it sort of petered out through member attrition (Dying) and lack of new members. I had fairly serious editing software (Avid Media Composer) and computer to run it, but have dropped out since moving to darkest Darzet.
The biggest negative thing to impact me was having about £5k worth of kit nicked, and the insurance refusing to pay out as someone (not me) left an exterior door unlocked.
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Post by Fenris on Nov 20, 2023 12:00:04 GMT
but have dropped out since moving to darkest Darzet. I keep forgetting you're down here as well. The biggest negative thing to impact me was having about £5k worth of kit nicked, and the insurance refusing to pay out as someone (not me) left an exterior door unlocked. Ouch! |
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Post by zou on Nov 22, 2023 20:13:53 GMT
My computer doesn't really have the minerals to handle grading or massive files so I'm trying to see how good can I get the video straight out of camera. Applying the 180° 'rule' has immediately improved the footage no end. It's as simple as setting manual exposure in video mode and auto-ISO does the hard work. Handy.
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Post by zou on Nov 24, 2023 19:51:40 GMT
I've been using Microsoft Clipchamp as that's free and the evolution of the Windows Movie Maker (?) software I had used before. The only real issue I have thus far is its colour tools are poor. I'd like more control of highlights/shadows etc. and my camera offers several suitable profiles, but the Clipchamp tools are basically just contrast/saturation etc. without fine control. Da Vinci is way beyond the power of my PC, so I am looking at Shotcut, which seems to be suitable.
I knew this lark would get addictive!
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Post by donerundlecams on Nov 28, 2023 3:56:19 GMT
I could quite easily live without the video option on my cameras. For those that actually have it I think I've used it deliberately about once though I've accidentally triggered it rather more frequently... Stills are hard enough, video looks like a total nightmare... Exactly, Nigel, exactly  . I used a video camera once in August or September 1992 -- a full size camera with a VHS tape and, suffice to say, after shooting for several hours and in the hour that it took to review the $hite, I went around apologised to all the video journalists that I had made fun of previously  . Since that 1992 debacle, I have made one "on purpose" video with my Nikon P900 about eight years ago and it turned out OK but that was all due to the camera's capability ... all I did was press the shutter button and pressed down on the camera so it wouldn't move off the dash . Whoops, I tell a lie, I did another one, but, only for the audio . Cheers, |
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. I used a video camera once in August or September 1992 -- a full size camera with a VHS tape and, suffice to say, after shooting for several hours and in the hour that it took to review the 
. Since that 1992 debacle, I have made one "on purpose" video with my Nikon P900 about eight years ago and it turned out OK but that was all due to the camera's capability ... all I did was press the shutter button and pressed down on the camera so it wouldn't move off the dash