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Post by gezza on Sept 18, 2023 18:04:28 GMT
Hi... Just a question for any Leica people here, I have some Leitz lens` that have not been used for a long long time and was just wondering whether it would be worth getting an adaptor to EF and give them a try on a 5D3. Is it a pointless exercise? If not are there good and avoidable adaptors and what would be the pitfalls of trying these out? I have asked elsewhere.
Thanks
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Post by peterob on Sept 18, 2023 18:32:07 GMT
It seems you can. The SRB website lists their own and a Novoflex adaptor. The lens has to be used stopped down which is usually easier on a CSC than a SLR because of the focus assist tools and because ELV works down to F11 where the SLR view would be impossible. I've never used liveview on a SLR so I don't know well it works when the lens is stopped down. I suppose you could focus manually wide open then shut down to the taking aperture to make the exposure. Camera metering should work.
Edit. I've only used (for the purposes of play) my old Minolta MD lenses on a Fuji X-E2 with a SRB adaptor. It works but I prefer AF to MF, I was never very good at doing the focussing myself. Some folk hugely enjoy using adapted lenses but I don't see the point. Sony users had to do it because Sony took ages to make a full range of lenses and I think that is what started people off collecting old lenses.
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Post by zou on Sept 18, 2023 18:44:18 GMT
Hi... Just a question for any Leica people here, I have some Leitz lens` that have not been used for a long long time and was just wondering whether it would be worth getting an adaptor to EF and give them a try on a 5D3. Is it a pointless exercise? If not are there good and avoidable adaptors and what would be the pitfalls of trying these out? I have asked elsewhere. Thanks What have you got? Even if you weren't to use them yourself they may be popular with mirrorless users on the used market. |
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Post by gezza on Sept 18, 2023 19:32:50 GMT
Elmarit R-1 90 F2. 8
Elmarit R-1 135 F2.8
Elmarit R-1 180 F2.8
Super Angulon 21 F4
Summicron R 50 F2
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Post by andytw on Sept 18, 2023 19:36:11 GMT
No real experience of using adaptors outside A to E mount but there are some affordable options around £25 that may be worth trying K&FFotodiox (also available on Amazon UK) |
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Post by zx9 on Sept 18, 2023 19:54:41 GMT
Back in the midst of time using my collection of Yashica Contax lenses with an adapter was the main reason I went for an EOS5D when I first looked at DSLRs.
I still occasionally use the old Zeiss lenses on my EOS M6 mk2 though as not a full frame camera they are not the same field of view, somewhere I have an adapter to use them (CY lenses) on the Leica M but I don't like using the rear screen so they will have to be un used until I pick up an EVF for the Leica.
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Post by peterob on Sept 18, 2023 20:08:44 GMT
Elmarit R-1 90 F2. 8 Elmarit R-1 135 F2.8 Elmarit R-1 180 F2.8 Super Angulon 21 F4 Summicron R 50 F2 Might be worth investigating an adaptor to Fuji G. A new GFX camera has been announced and GFX 50 bodies must now be hitting the s/h market. There's a post on the Fuji-X forum that lists lens compatibility with respect to image-circle - the GFX sensor is bigger than 35 mm - but spreadsheet therein is huge and I gave up looking for R lenses. Canon RF bodies must also be appearing used too. Lots of otHer CSC cameras too from 35 mm down to M4/3. |
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Post by zou on Sept 18, 2023 20:32:00 GMT
Elmarit R-1 90 F2. 8 Elmarit R-1 135 F2.8 Elmarit R-1 180 F2.8 Super Angulon 21 F4 Summicron R 50 F2 Send them my way so I can, errr, ummm, test them for you? I offer a thorough testing process, no shortcuts. Takes a couple of years. DM for prices.  |
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Post by petrochemist on Sept 18, 2023 21:26:34 GMT
I like adapting lenses, Leica R isn't among the 20+ mounts I've used (never found a lens in my price range) but I have heard good things of them. IIRC their registration is quite long for an SLR, so they adapt to a very wide range of cameras.
EF is almost certainly the most popular DSLR mount to adapt to, not as flexible as most mirrorless mounts, but clearly works well enough. I've seen loads of images taken with M42 lenses on EF, so the leack of lens comms is clearly not a big issue (chipped adapters may be needed however)
For me EF has only ever been an intermediate mount, alowing me to share fancy adapter features (such as focal reducers & helicoids) across multiple lens mounts.
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Post by andy on Sept 18, 2023 22:22:36 GMT
I like adapting lenses, Leica R isn't among the 20+ mounts I've used (never found a lens in my price range) but I have heard good things of them. IIRC their registration is quite long for an SLR, so they adapt to a very wide range of cameras. EF is almost certainly the most popular DSLR mount to adapt to, not as flexible as most mirrorless mounts, but clearly works well enough. I've seen loads of images taken with M42 lenses on EF, so the leack of lens comms is clearly not a big issue (chipped adapters may be needed however) For me EF has only ever been an intermediate mount, alowing me to share fancy adapter features (such as focal reducers & helicoids) across multiple lens mounts. IIRC all my Canon SLRs will take pictures without a lens mounted (or with a reversed lens held against the mount) and the camera just displays f/0. Easy to test. Think the contacts are required for things like focus confirmation but otherwise a manual focus lens with aperture control on the lens should work fine. |
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Post by nimbus on Sept 19, 2023 8:14:46 GMT
That depends on two things, does the adapter allow infinity focus? Does the adapter contain an optical element? If the answer to the first is yes and the second no it's worth a go. Any adapter with optics is not really going to bring anything out from your Leica lenses. Better to use them on a mirrorless where no additional optics are in the lightpath.
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Post by peterob on Sept 19, 2023 8:43:09 GMT
That depends on two things, does the adapter allow infinity focus? Does the adapter contain an optical element? If the answer to the first is yes and the second no it's worth a go. Any adapter with optics is not really going to bring anything out from your Leica lenses. Better to use them on a mirrorless where no additional optics are in the lightpath. For the two adaptors I found the answer is yes and no. Manual focus and stopped down metering only. The benefit of using them on mirrorless is easier focussing, especially when stopped down, and easier metering with over/under exposure being obvious although liveview on a DSLR may provide the same via the LCD. |
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Post by zx9 on Sept 19, 2023 14:47:42 GMT
My C/Y to EOS adapter is chipped to allow focus confirmation, aperture stopped down. The C/Y to EOS M is a dumb tube with no electrical connection between body and lens, the camera needs to be set on manual focus and ok to fire with no lens attached. The first setting is a lever on the back of the body, the second is buried in the menus though interestingly it does not over ride the no operation with either the EFM 11-22 or EFM 15-45 when the lens is in collapsed transit position.
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Post by pixelpuffin on Nov 1, 2023 9:47:42 GMT
I’m having a tough time with this cross over question…
Back in analogue days the body was just that ….a body! The glass made all the difference.
Now with digital it seems the sensors and software make a bigger impact than what lens you’re sporting - lens manufacturers will beg to differ I suspect!!
Take canon ( as that’s what I use) some of my older lenses never really performed that well on film, yet with digital the body is able to correct a lot of the imperfections.
I do use manual lenses but not seriously.
Your list of Leica R glass sounds amazing, especially the wide angles. However shooting manual with a 180mm at 2.8 is the stuff of nightmares for me these days. Definitely a case of tripod and zooming on the rear screen for focus checking.
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