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Post by kate on Aug 20, 2023 13:13:13 GMT
Please give me your advice on how much to say when the roofer arrives tomorrow.
Having lived to a ripe old age, having had experience of an old house (and this newer one), I'm usually pretty sure where the problems are.
However, I get the feeling sometimes that they don't want to hear my side of the story, even when I turn out to be right in the end.
So, do I just point to the roof at the back of the house (hopefully he recognises it as such) and let him get on with it?
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Post by zou on Aug 20, 2023 13:22:28 GMT
Has the roofer been on site before, for an estimate etc.? If not, then explaining why they've been hired makes sense, thereafter leave them to get on with it. Over the cup of tea etc. you may have a better opportunity to discuss anything else they've seen.
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Post by Kath on Aug 20, 2023 13:30:38 GMT
Sounds like every trip to see a doctor that I've ever had!!
I'd give them as much information as you have and then let them get on with it. It could stop them going off half-cocked looking at the wrong thing. Even if they disagree with your opinion, you are the one paying them so they shoudl at least listen to it!
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Post by kate on Aug 20, 2023 13:39:25 GMT
Has the roofer been on site before, for an estimate etc.? If not, then explaining why they've been hired makes sense, thereafter leave them to get on with it. Over the cup of tea etc. you may have a better opportunity to discuss anything else they've seen. No, this one hasn't been before. Good point though to explain why they've been hired. Better than my saying I think the problem is.... da da da... Thanks |
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Post by kate on Aug 20, 2023 13:43:25 GMT
Sounds like every trip to see a doctor that I've ever had!! I'd give them as much information as you have and then let them get on with it. It could stop them going off half-cocked looking at the wrong thing. Even if they disagree with your opinion, you are the one paying them so they shoudl at least listen to it! I know what you mean! I've given up going to the doctor. Usually their diagnosis is either something they can't cure - or they could prescribe anti inflammatory drugs or steroids, or pain killers, most of which would cure me - but only the once!! Ha! |
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Post by zx9 on Aug 20, 2023 16:16:27 GMT
I think that if you don't tell them why they are there you would be letting yourself in for more work and expense than is actually needed.
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Post by willien on Aug 20, 2023 16:56:27 GMT
I think that if you don't tell them why they are there you would be letting yourself in for more work and expense than is actually needed. Is that roofers or doctors? |
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Post by spinno on Aug 20, 2023 17:09:39 GMT
I think that if you don't tell them why they are there you would be letting yourself in for more work and expense than is actually needed. Is that roofers or doctors? Both! |
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Post by spinno on Aug 20, 2023 17:12:11 GMT
Has the roofer been on site before, for an estimate etc.? If not, then explaining why they've been hired makes sense, thereafter leave them to get on with it. Over the cup of tea etc. you may have a better opportunity to discuss anything else they've seen. No, this one hasn't been before. Good point though to explain why they've been hired. Better than my saying I think the problem is.... da da da... Thanks Tell him you've googled the issue...then watch his eyes spin round like the reels on a one-armed bandit |
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Post by JohnY on Aug 20, 2023 21:48:24 GMT
Day rate gets very expensive especially when the tradesperson does not have a highly lucrative fixed price job to attend. What's wrong with the spelling checker? It objects to tradesperson but not tradesman. I'm giving up on being 'woke'.
More seriously I assume that you are living in a relatively small island community and rogue tradesmen have nowhere to hide. If your chap is well recommended just make clear what you want, agree price and whether day rate or fixed contract, and let him get on with it.
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Post by Chester PB on Aug 21, 2023 13:20:49 GMT
Having had some roof work done last year, I offer this advice.
Ask around to try to find somebody who has been recommended to you. Some 'trusted trader' websites only list traders who pay them, so how can you trust the websites? I managed to find somebody who had done work on a house nearby.
Try to get more than one quote. I eventually paid £1,500 to somebody who did a decent job, but had other quotes as high as £4,000. The critical thing appears to be the need (or not) of scaffolding and how easily accessible the part of the roof that needs work is. If they need scaffolding (or a 'tower'), and do not have their own, then it will need to be hired at additional expense.
The exact reason for my roof problem was not easily identified, and the symptom was water coming into a room down an outside wall after prolonged heavy rain and wind. The roofer had to return after a heavy rainfall to do another 2-3 hours work with more lead around a chimney. However, I was impressed that he didn't ask for any more money, since his quotation was to cure leak. I have had no problems since.
Watch out for VAT and make sure that quotations include it if it will be charged. A sole trader may not be vat registered, but a larger firm will be.
Good luck.
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Post by don on Sept 6, 2023 16:13:29 GMT
What did happen? I used to be a roofer so I’m inquisitive as to the outcome
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Post by kate on Sept 6, 2023 17:09:53 GMT
What did happen? I used to be a roofer so I’m inquisitive as to the outcome It was rather unsatisfactory. One man band was all I could get to come along. He came, he looked, he said it was only a cracked corner and all seemed clear (although he didn't check any down pipes). He didn't even have any replacement slates with him, nor asked if I had. I just accepted my loss - though He didn't charge me. Next year if the same thing occurs with the sparrows, I'll be trying to get someone to come and look. You have no idea what it's like here for house owners trying to get work done. At times I wish it was rented from the Housing Association! |
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Post by zx9 on Sept 6, 2023 18:46:22 GMT
What did happen? I used to be a roofer so I’m inquisitive as to the outcome It was rather unsatisfactory. One man band was all I could get to come along. He came, he looked, he said it was only a cracked corner and all seemed clear (although he didn't check any down pipes). He didn't even have any replacement slates with him, nor asked if I had. I just accepted my loss - though He didn't charge me. Next year if the same thing occurs with the sparrows, I'll be trying to get someone to come and look. You have no idea what it's like here for house owners trying to get work done. At times I wish it was rented from the Housing Association! But how was the roofer photo session? I am looking forward to seeing the pictures on the 9th.  |
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Post by don on Sept 6, 2023 18:48:36 GMT
Hope it’s okay 👍 don’t say that think of all that rent you’d have paid and nothing to show for it
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