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Post by petrochemist on May 19, 2023 17:39:00 GMT
To cut to the chase, I just bought a boxed 2006 Pentax K10D with 10mp ccd. It arrived last week. It’s certainly a step back from the canon gear I have…but in a nice way. The k10d is polar opposites, it’s brutally unforgiving, so I have to try harder each time I use it. Sometimes it’s frustrating, but when I do get it right I feel I made the picture. It feels very much like the photography I used to know years ago. I wouldn’t call it fun as it’s quite maddening at times, but there’s definitely a sense of achievement when it all comes together. It’s giving me that same kick I got when I first used a real camera back in the early 80’s. In short, it feels like I’m starting photography all over again.  My first DSLR was a K10, and some of my pictures posted on this website were taken with it. I later replaced it with a K5 (when superseded by the K3 and being sold off at a reasonable price) which I still have. I only made the change because the K10 had the following weaknesses compared to the K5: The highest ISO on the K10 was 1600, which was not high enough to allow hand held shots with a long telephoto at 1/1000 of a second and F8 or F11 (a result of the Samsung sensor in the K10 compared with the Sony one in the K5). On the K10 I had to go into the menus to change the ISO setting, whereas on the K5 there is a button near the shutter release that allows me to do this without taking my eye from the viewfinder. The resolution on the K10 was 10 megapixels (quite adequate for decent 45x30 cm prints), whereas the K5 is 16 megapixels. This difference is only obvious when larger prints are required, and was not the most important reason to buy the K5. I have on my wall 2 40x60 cm framed prints, one taken with each camera, and it is not possible to be sure which print was taken with which camera. Both were taken with the same lens (an old-model Sigma 10-20 mm), at and ISO setting of 200 so the K10's ISO range was not a problem. The K10 is well built. Mine fell off a pew in Padua cathedral and dropped about 45-50 cm onto a granite floor and worked perfectly afterwards. The attached Tamron 18-250 was fitted with a big (and cheap) collapsible rubbers lens hood which protected the lens, which I still have. My first DSLR was the K100d, basically a budget version of the K10. With an old manual focus lens fitted it felt quite similar to my old film SLRs - though their focus aids were definitely better and the pentamirror left the viewfinder a bit dim. In around a year I'd upgraded to the K7 (very much like the K5, except for low light performance). With the IBIS I didn't find the ISO limit of the K100 an issue (but I guess I'd migrated from film where it was more of one) This was with a 500mm f/8:  BSB Brands Hatch 1 by Mike Kanssen, on Flickr |
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Post by geoffr on May 19, 2023 20:27:17 GMT
My first DSLR was a Fuji FinePix S2Pro, basically a Nikon F80 with Fuji sensor and electronics. The images were good but the F80 wouldn’t have been my choice of body, I was using F5s at the time. Handling matters and the F80 didn’t have it, not compared to the F5. I bought a D2H which, despite having only 4MP was much better to use, being very similar to the F5. To me the whole point of a camera system is that all the parts work together. Aside from the memory cards, and obviously lenses, there’s not much commonalities between Z bodies.
The batteries I have had since 2018 will work in a Z9 but nothing else in the range. If I stick with F mount cameras I can use them with almost anything that has a grip D500, D750, D850 etc. not to mention the D5 and D6.
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Post by Fenris on May 21, 2023 11:24:35 GMT
This is a $10k set up! I’m exasperated by these people that seem to think that just because they bought the latest/greatest they suddenly can capture pictures to rival National Geographic . Seems very much; All the gear, but no idea!Reminds me of a friend from some years ago who invested multiple thousands in the top of the range Canon gear and expected to be able to capture 'professional' images when going out taking photographs. After a couple of weeks, he was blaming the camera. So he bought a different Canon body - a new one had just been released so he bought that. Another couple of weeks passed and he was still getting bad pictures... So he sold all his Canon gear and bought the top of the range Nikon gear instead. Yet another couple of weeks went past and he was still getting crap result... So he sold all the gear and gave up photography! This all happened over a period of about two months. |
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Post by geoffr on May 21, 2023 11:40:59 GMT
Seems very much; All the gear, but no idea!Reminds me of a friend from some years ago who invested multiple thousands in the top of the range Canon gear and expected to be able to capture 'professional' images when going out taking photographs. After a couple of weeks, he was blaming the camera. So he bought a different Canon body - a new one had just been released so he bought that. Another couple of weeks passed and he was still getting bad pictures... So he sold all his Canon gear and bought the top of the range Nikon gear instead. Yet another couple of weeks went past and he was still getting crap result... So he sold all the gear and gave up photography! This all happened over a period of about two months. I have days like that, but I know its me not the camera. Some days I should just look and realise that the light isn't right for what I would like to take other days I should spend more time setting up properly. Fortunately most days I get something good enough to keep on really good days I get lots. But that's life, you can't get everything right all of the time. |
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Post by Ivor E Tower on May 27, 2023 19:28:15 GMT
I have been toying with the idea of getting a Nikon (tyring to get the thread back on topic) D70s to add to my "collection" for some months. The well-know UK website for online sales of camera gear occasionally has a few but often they are in somewhat tatty condition, sometimes not in full working order, plus you have to pay P&P on top of the advertised price. A few weeks ago I noticed in the local electronics exchange shop in town that there was a D70s body in what looked like very reasonable condition. On the past two Saturdays I've been far away but today I Was in town and it was still there. I'd taken my own lens and CF card along and was able to try it out. The shutter/mirror noise is quite quaint by modern standards, but everything seemed to work, so I thought "Why not?"
A few minutes with a few cleaning implements has sorted out the dust in the mirror box, and the half-smudged finger print on the mirror. The sensor appears to be clean, and uploading an image to a shutter-count website returned a value of 11743. I'll have to give the exterion a clean on another day, but overall it appears to be £35 well spent
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Post by zou on May 27, 2023 19:54:25 GMT
I have been toying with the idea of getting a Nikon (tyring to get the thread back on topic) D70s to add to my "collection" for some months. The well-know UK website for online sales of camera gear occasionally has a few but often they are in somewhat tatty condition, sometimes not in full working order, plus you have to pay P&P on top of the advertised price. A few weeks ago I noticed in the local electronics exchange shop in town that there was a D70s body in what looked like very reasonable condition. On the past two Saturdays I've been far away but today I Was in town and it was still there. I'd taken my own lens and CF card along and was able to try it out. The shutter/mirror noise is quite quaint by modern standards, but everything seemed to work, so I thought "Why not?" A few minutes with a few cleaning implements has sorted out the dust in the mirror box, and the half-smudged finger print on the mirror. The sensor appears to be clean, and uploading an image to a shutter-count website returned a value of 11743. I'll have to give the exterion a clean on another day, but overall it appears to be £35 well spent Nice one. I used a D70 for a while back in the day and it's well worth that outlay in 2023. Got any nice lenses for it? |
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Post by Ivor E Tower on May 29, 2023 20:09:31 GMT
Yes thanks, a few .........
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Post by zou on May 29, 2023 20:47:45 GMT
Yes thanks, a few ......... I shall presume that means "loads"!  |
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Post by skyehammer on Feb 7, 2024 12:58:09 GMT
As part of my camera collection I have -
Two digital Nikons - D7000 + D7200 [ I had a D80 but gave it to my Daughter ] .
F80 , F90 , F70 , F50 , F301 in pristine as new condition , F401 , F801 in pristine condition .
All in the cupboard under the stairs now [ apart from the digis of course ] .
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Post by kate on Feb 7, 2024 13:29:43 GMT
I used to have and use Nikons.
For me, it was the feel of the camera when I held it. Canons seemed too rounded and I didn't feel confident holding them. Hubby preferred Canon but I stuck to Nikon (after my baby Sony).
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Post by geoffr on Feb 7, 2024 17:42:20 GMT
The sensor appears to be clean, and uploading an image to a shutter-count website returned a value of 11743. Apple's Preview application can show shutter count, in the Inspector function. |
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Post by Ivor E Tower on Feb 7, 2024 18:32:48 GMT
The only Apple product I will "handle" is the Granny Smith. Not sure I need to preview that; in any case condition varies between the supermarket fruit & veg section and my home
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Post by dorsetmike on Feb 7, 2024 21:17:37 GMT
The only Apple product I will "handle" is the Granny Smith. Not sure I need to preview that; in any case condition varies between the supermarket fruit & veg section and my home Has to be a Bramley for me, dad had a tree that was planted around 1908, in the '80s we once picked over 700 lbs from it, kept a few mates at work supplied, including a cider making addict (slurp slurp); strange thing was the heavy crops occurred every other year, a light crop would sometimes be as low as 70lbs, good keeper if stored correctly, usually lasted into May. |
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Post by JohnY on Feb 7, 2024 22:16:01 GMT
Sure the D6 and D850 were were aimed at different users. It was not possible to satisfy both types of user with one camera.Also at that time video was not important in a stills camera. The D500 shares the same AF system as the D5 and D850; that is why it is nearly as tall as a D850. The Z9 attempted to satisfy those needing speed and those who thought they needed lots of pixels. Both types of user got far more than they needed. The Z8 seems to be aimed at converting D850 users to mirrorless. Also it is only 30g heavier than a D500 and may get some converts from the D500. Since the thread has been disinterred I may as well join in. The Z8 has a much higher specification than I want or need. I don't want all those pixels and don't want to shoot stills at cinematic rates however the AF system does de-skill the tricky business of getting one's moving target in focus. I would quite like a Z80 if Nikon made one. It was often said that inside a D850 was a D500. I traded in one of my D500 and bought a Z8 with 24-120 and 100-400. Sure I do not exploit this kit to the full and still use my remaining D500 on many occasions. The Z8 may well be a serious professional camera but I assure you that it also is a brilliant toy for amateur snappers. |
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Post by JohnY on Feb 7, 2024 22:32:14 GMT
The only Apple product I will "handle" is the Granny Smith. Not sure I need to preview that; in any case condition varies between the supermarket fruit & veg section and my home Has to be a Bramley for me, dad had a tree that was planted around 1908, in the '80s we once picked over 700 lbs from it, kept a few mates at work supplied, including a cider making addict (slurp slurp); strange thing was the heavy crops occurred every other year, a light crop would sometimes be as low as 70lbs, good keeper if stored correctly, usually lasted into May. I grow Bramley on cordons in my own garden. They crop well alternate years. In my case I suspect that the reason is unskilled pruning. We have an orchard at Rushcliffe Country Park with many apple bushes on dwarfing root stock and in the hedgerow alongside one side have some cider varieties on strong stock as hedgerow standards. The cider varieties are bitter sweets. The juice is simultaneously bitter because of a high tannin content and sweet because of the sugar content. We don't have any bitter sharps but can increase the acidity by blending Bramley juice. |
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