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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2023 20:32:13 GMT
After the shock of my last gas and electricity bill, I am thinking of installing smart radiator valves upstairs to make sure the rads are turned down after the bedrooms have been vacated. I want to just control the valves from an app on my phone. They are not cheap and have very variable reviews.
Does anyone use them and if so any advice/recommendations?
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Post by geoffr on Feb 9, 2023 22:30:26 GMT
Just remember, it takes more energy to raise the temperature in a room than it does to maintain it. When it gets really cold I raise the overnight temperature so that I am not raising the temperature by very much in the morning. I will install more insulation when I have the time as that makes a big difference. Best way to use radiator valves is to maintain the bedrooms at the required temperature rather than shut it off completely.
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Post by andy on Feb 9, 2023 23:29:23 GMT
Try doing it manually for a trial period to gauge potential savings and whether the expense is worth the convenience of being able to do it remotely?
I turned the thermostat down. 18.5c seems warm enough for no complaints here.
The temperature the water gets heated to can be adjusted on the boiler too. No point heating the water any hotter than it needs to be.
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Post by davidh on Feb 11, 2023 13:39:58 GMT
After the shock of my last gas and electricity bill, I am thinking of installing smart radiator valves upstairs to make sure the rads are turned down after the bedrooms have been vacated. I want to just control the valves from an app on my phone. They are not cheap and have very variable reviews. Does anyone use them and if so any advice/recommendations? I'm a fan of programmable, but not 'smart' valves. They seem to work; upstairs rooms stay cooler until closer to bedtime - but no idea on the impact on the bill. I tried one out first, and when I liked what it did, bought some more. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2023 19:52:46 GMT
After the shock of my last gas and electricity bill, I am thinking of installing smart radiator valves upstairs to make sure the rads are turned down after the bedrooms have been vacated. I want to just control the valves from an app on my phone. They are not cheap and have very variable reviews. Does anyone use them and if so any advice/recommendations? I'm a fan of programmable, but not 'smart' valves. They seem to work; upstairs rooms stay cooler until closer to bedtime - but no idea on the impact on the bill. I tried one out first, and when I liked what it did, bought some more. Having done more research I don’t think smart rad values are for me as they need a control unit so overall cost quite a bit. A programable TVR would be more suitable but very few seem to be available. I’ll try a local supplier next week. |
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Post by Chester PB on Feb 12, 2023 15:23:32 GMT
Most of the radiators in our house have ordinary thermostatic valves, and all the ones in rooms apart from the living room are adjusted depending on occupancy of the room. Why make something this simple into something complex that would require (for me) the purchase of a smartphone?
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Post by dreampolice on Feb 12, 2023 18:55:29 GMT
Most of the radiators in our house have ordinary thermostatic valves, and all the ones in rooms apart from the living room are adjusted depending on occupancy of the room. Why make something this simple into something complex that would require (for me) the purchase of a smartphone? Don't worry. I don't think @bazzarchie wants you to control his heating. There is no need to buy a smartphone. |
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Post by daves on Feb 12, 2023 19:35:59 GMT
I already have a Hive "smart" system, and have considered a set of their "smart" radiator valves, but sticking with the TRVs currently installed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2023 20:23:07 GMT
Most of the radiators in our house have ordinary thermostatic valves, and all the ones in rooms apart from the living room are adjusted depending on occupancy of the room. Why make something this simple into something complex that would require (for me) the purchase of a smartphone? Don't worry. I don't think @bazzarchie wants you to control his heating. There is no need to buy a smartphone. I cannot get my family to turn off lights let alone let alone control radiators and I don’t want to do it. |
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Post by spinno on Feb 12, 2023 20:52:06 GMT
Re:insulation
We are detached, we have cavity wall insulation, double glazing and loft insulation to the latest standard.
Can someone explain to me why it is impossible to maintain a general temperature of 16°c.
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Post by John Farrell on Feb 12, 2023 21:00:32 GMT
Re:insulation We are detached, we have cavity wall insulation, double glazing and loft insulation to the latest standard. Can someone explain to me why it is impossible to maintain a general temperature of 16°c. Air infiltration around windows and doors - possibly around fittings that pierce the outside walls. |
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Post by geoffr on Feb 12, 2023 21:35:07 GMT
Re:insulation We are detached, we have cavity wall insulation, double glazing and loft insulation to the latest standard. Can someone explain to me why it is impossible to maintain a general temperature of 16°c. During the December cold snap I couldn't get the house up to 21℃. Investigation revealed that the insulation over the loft hatch was displaced and a known hole in a ceiling was actually open to an uninsulated roof void. A temporary repair to the ceiling and repositioning the insulation made an almost instant difference. Getting a couple of valves in the heating/hot water system replaced helped too. When it was at its coldest closing all the internal doors helped too. Keep the hot air where you want it rather than letting it accumulate under the upstairs ceilings.
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Post by zou on Feb 12, 2023 21:45:34 GMT
Re:insulation We are detached, we have cavity wall insulation, double glazing and loft insulation to the latest standard. Can someone explain to me why it is impossible to maintain a general temperature of 16°c. Because you set the thermo to 25°? |
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Post by spinno on Feb 12, 2023 22:22:12 GMT
Re:insulation We are detached, we have cavity wall insulation, double glazing and loft insulation to the latest standard. Can someone explain to me why it is impossible to maintain a general temperature of 16°c. Because you set the thermo to 25°? Just because you ain't at home don't mean I can't reach you... |
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Post by zou on Feb 13, 2023 0:15:23 GMT
Because you set the thermo to 25°? Just because you ain't at home don't mean I can't reach you... Sou desu ka? |
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