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Post by willien on Aug 21, 2024 20:04:08 GMT
Having been an enthusiastic cyclist I can see the attraction of riding however I regularly encounter cyclists who appear to expect other road users to be entirely responsible for their, the cyclists, safety. Such things as; no lights, being on the wrong side of the road, ignoring red lights, ignoring pedestrians on a crossing, lights on the cyclist's head so when they turn the light goes from red to white. The other thing that baffles me is cyclists riding along roads I would avoid like the plague if I were on two wheels.
All bar the head-mounted light issue I've seen daily from motorists tho. Could you explain further? Sounds fascinating. |
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Post by MJB on Aug 21, 2024 20:09:41 GMT
I did 120 miles today on a mixture of A roads, B roads, dual carriageway, motorway, rural lanes, and urban roads. It's fair to say the only moronic psychopaths I encountered were in cars and with the heightened awareness of just completed a driving safety course, whilst they were in the minority in the technical sense, it was still a significant number.
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Post by spinno on Aug 21, 2024 20:20:00 GMT
I did 120 miles today on a mixture of A roads, B roads, dual carriageway, motorway, rural lanes, and urban roads. It's fair to say the only moronic psychopaths I encountered were in cars and with the heightened awareness of just completed a driving safety course, whilst they were in the minority in the technical sense, it was still a significant number. what does my head in are those who are so oblivious to "the rules of the road"... |
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Post by zou on Aug 21, 2024 20:27:32 GMT
Having been an enthusiastic cyclist I can see the attraction of riding however I regularly encounter cyclists who appear to expect other road users to be entirely responsible for their, the cyclists, safety. Such things as; no lights, being on the wrong side of the road, ignoring red lights, ignoring pedestrians on a crossing, lights on the cyclist's head so when they turn the light goes from red to white. The other thing that baffles me is cyclists riding along roads I would avoid like the plague if I were on two wheels.
A very small (probably tiny) minority of cyclists ride like moronic psychopaths. At least they are on bikes. If the same individuals were driving cars they would present much more danger to others. The older I get the less I care what damage such individuals do to them selves. I wish about 35/40%+ of motorists were cyclists instead of being the ticking time bomb of dangerous 'in control' of a 2,000kg vehicle. Fewer than 10% of motorists adhere to the law at a pedestrian crossing I use multiple times a day. It's really noteworthy that you can find a relatively decent person, but behind the wheel the persona changes - impatient, entitled, and aggressive. |
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Post by zou on Aug 21, 2024 20:29:40 GMT
I did 120 miles today on a mixture of A roads, B roads, dual carriageway, motorway, rural lanes, and urban roads. It's fair to say the only moronic psychopaths I encountered were in cars and with the heightened awareness of just completed a driving safety course, whilst they were in the minority in the technical sense, it was still a significant number. what does my head in are those who are so oblivious to "the rules of the road"... It doesn't help that the highway code doesn't actually cover all the relevant laws. I would want to see mandatory retesting every 5 years, and after any period of disqualification. A second disqualification would be permanent. |
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Post by MJB on Aug 21, 2024 20:41:17 GMT
The other thing that baffles me is cyclists riding along roads I would avoid like the plague if I were on two wheels. Just out of curiosity why would you avoid them? |
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Post by MJB on Aug 21, 2024 20:46:26 GMT
what does my head in are those who are so oblivious to "the rules of the road"... It doesn't help that the highway code doesn't actually cover all the relevant laws. I would want to see mandatory retesting every 5 years, and after any period of disqualification. A second disqualification would be permanent. There's been 50 changes to the highway code in the last 2 years. I'm calling bullshit on anyone who claims to know what they are. Whenever there's a discussion about driving standards on here I've always made the point that the last time anyone officially considered my driving ability was on the 19th May 1989 and I'd wager that is far more recent than most on here. |
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Post by geoffr on Aug 21, 2024 20:47:41 GMT
The other thing that baffles me is cyclists riding along roads I would avoid like the plague if I were on two wheels. Just out of curiosity why would you avoid them? Too narrow, lack of visibility and often too much traffic. Cycling should be enjoyable but in these circumstances it becomes stressful. |
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Post by MJB on Aug 21, 2024 20:49:45 GMT
Just out of curiosity why would you avoid them? Too narrow, lack of visibility and often too much traffic. Cycling should be enjoyable but in these circumstances it becomes stressful. All factors affected by a lack of consideration by other road users. |
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Post by willien on Aug 21, 2024 20:53:42 GMT
A very small (probably tiny) minority of cyclists ride like moronic psychopaths. At least they are on bikes. If the same individuals were driving cars they would present much more danger to others. The older I get the less I care what damage such individuals do to them selves. I wish about 35/40%+ of motorists were cyclists instead of being the ticking time bomb of dangerous 'in control' of a 2,000kg vehicle. Fewer than 10% of motorists adhere to the law at a pedestrian crossing I use multiple times a day.It's really noteworthy that you can find a relatively decent person, but behind the wheel the persona changes - impatient, entitled, and aggressive. That is shocking. Shouldn't you be taking video evidence (phone) and complaining to the police? |
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Post by geoffr on Aug 21, 2024 20:55:27 GMT
It doesn't help that the highway code doesn't actually cover all the relevant laws. I would want to see mandatory retesting every 5 years, and after any period of disqualification. A second disqualification would be permanent. There's been 50 changes to the highway code in the last 2 years. I'm calling bullshit on anyone who claims to know what they are. Whenever there's a discussion about driving standards on here I've always made the point that the last time anyone officially considered my driving ability was on the 19th May 1989 and I'd wager that is far more recent than most on here. I find it interesting that most people know the rule that, if you are on a pedestrian crossing, approaching vehicles must stop. Few appear to know the associated rule that you must stop at the crossing until any traffic has stopped before crossing. When I was working I was expected to attend regular training before my company permit was renewed. Being an airside driver there were additional rules over and above the Highway Code. |
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Post by zou on Aug 21, 2024 20:58:47 GMT
I wish about 35/40%+ of motorists were cyclists instead of being the ticking time bomb of dangerous 'in control' of a 2,000kg vehicle. Fewer than 10% of motorists adhere to the law at a pedestrian crossing I use multiple times a day.It's really noteworthy that you can find a relatively decent person, but behind the wheel the persona changes - impatient, entitled, and aggressive. That is shocking. Shouldn't you be taking video evidence (phone) and complaining to the police? Police and council are well aware, and I have in writing from the council confirmation that the crossing is in the list for upgrading, but limited funds mean it could be years. They thoughtfully added that multiple fatalities would accelerate the upgrades. A colleague was hit at the crossing and miraculously avoided life-changing injury. |
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Post by zou on Aug 21, 2024 21:02:40 GMT
There's been 50 changes to the highway code in the last 2 years. I'm calling bullshit on anyone who claims to know what they are. Whenever there's a discussion about driving standards on here I've always made the point that the last time anyone officially considered my driving ability was on the 19th May 1989 and I'd wager that is far more recent than most on here. I find it interesting that most people know the rule that, if you are on a pedestrian crossing, approaching vehicles must stop. Few appear to know the associated rule that you must stop at the crossing until any traffic has stopped before crossing. When I was working I was expected to attend regular training before my company permit was renewed. Being an airside driver there were additional rules over and above the Highway Code. That's a highway code bit of nonsense which is not in the relevant legislation as I recall. For zebra crossings the law on precedence is thus: www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1997/2400/regulation/25/made |
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Post by willien on Aug 21, 2024 21:04:27 GMT
That is shocking. Shouldn't you be taking video evidence (phone) and complaining to the police? Police and council are well aware, and I have in writing from the council confirmation that the crossing is in the list for upgrading, but limited funds mean it could be years. They thoughtfully added that multiple fatalities would accelerate the upgrades. A colleague was hit at the crossing and miraculously avoided life-changing injury. Ever thought of putting in a written complaint about the sarcy B who wrote that and or writing to the Beeb/Scotsman/ Evening news (assuming its in Edinburgh). I appreciate that if you work for the said cooncil this might not be viable. Still looking forward to enlightenment re drivers with lights on their heids.
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Post by zou on Aug 21, 2024 21:13:20 GMT
Police and council are well aware, and I have in writing from the council confirmation that the crossing is in the list for upgrading, but limited funds mean it could be years. They thoughtfully added that multiple fatalities would accelerate the upgrades. A colleague was hit at the crossing and miraculously avoided life-changing injury. Ever thought of putting in a written complaint about the sarcy B who wrote that and or writing to the Beeb/Scotsman/ Evening news (assuming its in Edinburgh). I appreciate that if you work for the said cooncil this might not be viable. Still looking forward to enlightenment re drivers with lights on their heids.
It was worded in such a way that it would not cause great offence, and I suspect was standard wording. The polis said they were aware of a worse crossing near a school which had the same letter. If you want enlightenment you could try strapping a cyclist's helmet lamp to your head. Or rereading what I wrote.  |
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