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Post by geoffr on Sept 13, 2024 22:18:54 GMT
This is something that has annoyed me for years, it started with the EU when Ireland voted not to accept a treaty. Instead of accepting the result and restarting negotiations the EU told the Irish people to vote again. I found this disrespectful, it was rather like a teacher saying to a pupil “wrong answer, try again”. I’ll remind you that I voted remain.
Now I see something similar regularly with websites, on the first visit I decline unnecessary cookies and object legitimate interest. After a few weeks, or sometimes days, the site asks me to select my cookie preferences again and then repeats the process regularly. I know the sites are losing money because I am refusing to give them data that they can sell but the law says they must let me opt out.
I suppose the website owners think that, if they ask often enough, one day I will agree to accept cookies. I won’t! The obvious solution would be to change the law so that users have to opt in to cookies, which would infuriate site owners. Alternatively there could be a requirement for a cookie, deemed necessary, that remembers a user’s preferences and prevents the site from asking again, equally infuriating.
Two of the worst offenders are, the BBC and the Met Office with the gov.uk close behind. I know I’m not alone in disliking the practice, does anybody like it?
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Post by willien on Sept 13, 2024 22:28:43 GMT
This is something that has annoyed me for years, it started with the EU when Ireland voted not to accept a treaty. Instead of accepting the result and restarting negotiations the EU told the Irish people to vote again. I found this disrespectful, it was rather like a teacher saying to a pupil “wrong answer, try again”. I’ll remind you that I voted remain. Now I see something similar regularly with websites, on the first visit I decline unnecessary cookies and object legitimate interest. After a few weeks, or sometimes days, the site asks me to select my cookie preferences again and then repeats the process regularly. I know the sites are losing money because I am refusing to give them data that they can sell but the law says they must let me opt out. I suppose the website owners think that, if they ask often enough, one day I will agree to accept cookies. I won’t! The obvious solution would be to change the law so that users have to opt in to cookies, which would infuriate site owners. Alternatively there could be a requirement for a cookie, deemed necessary, that remembers a user’s preferences and prevents the site from asking again, equally infuriating. Two of the worst offenders are, the BBC and the Met Office with the gov.uk close behind. I know I’m not alone in disliking the practice, does anybody like it? I am perfectly OK with the EU telling Ireland (or the UK when we were a member) to keep agreeing to the rules and cannot see the tie up with aerosole organisations trying to grind people down re data protection. |
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Post by spinno on Sept 14, 2024 5:53:59 GMT
If you don't accept cookies then they don't know when you visit again...so they ask again...and again.
They ask because they're obliged to ask under EU rules to which we are signed up.
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Post by geoffr on Sept 14, 2024 6:40:05 GMT
If you don't accept cookies then they don't know when you visit again...so they ask again...and again. They ask because they're obliged to ask under EU rules to which we are signed up. There are some cookies that can’t be denied, because the site won’t work without them, one of those should be designed to remember just enough to prevent the constant repetition of the question. Perhaps more importantly every site should set a cookie that remembers the user’s preferences, that way when they ask for consent one wouldn’t need to object “legitimate interest” cookies individually (Met Office). Some sites do remember user settings and show them when they ask, confirming that these settings are correct isn’t a problem. The problem is with sites that reset on each visit (AP resets legitimate interest to “accept” every time, MPB resets everything). |
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Post by peterba on Sept 14, 2024 10:17:55 GMT
There are some cookies that can’t be denied, because the site won’t work without them, one of those should be designed to remember just enough to prevent the constant repetition of the question. Perhaps more importantly every site should set a cookie that remembers the user’s preferences, that way when they ask for consent one wouldn’t need to object “legitimate interest” cookies individually (Met Office).
Exactly this, Geoff.
As to whether site owners might be annoyed by being unable to plunder people's data..... I really couldn't care less.
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Post by gray1720 on Sept 14, 2024 10:18:45 GMT
This is something that has annoyed me for years, it started with the EU when Ireland voted not to accept a treaty. Instead of accepting the result and restarting negotiations the EU told the Irish people to vote again. I found this disrespectful, it was rather like a teacher saying to a pupil “wrong answer, try again”. I’ll remind you that I voted remain. Now I see something similar regularly with websites, on the first visit I decline unnecessary cookies and object legitimate interest. After a few weeks, or sometimes days, the site asks me to select my cookie preferences again and then repeats the process regularly. I know the sites are losing money because I am refusing to give them data that they can sell but the law says they must let me opt out. I suppose the website owners think that, if they ask often enough, one day I will agree to accept cookies. I won’t! The obvious solution would be to change the law so that users have to opt in to cookies, which would infuriate site owners. Alternatively there could be a requirement for a cookie, deemed necessary, that remembers a user’s preferences and prevents the site from asking again, equally infuriating. Two of the worst offenders are, the BBC and the Met Office with the gov.uk close behind. I know I’m not alone in disliking the practice, does anybody like it? I am perfectly OK with the EU telling Ireland (or the UK when we were a member) to keep agreeing to the rules and cannot see the tie up with aerosole organisations trying to grind people down re data protection. Join the club. |
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Post by Fenris on Sept 14, 2024 12:03:56 GMT
Some places put a timer on the cookies so that they expire after a set period and don't just sit there clogging up your computer.
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Post by don on Oct 1, 2024 14:23:47 GMT
I’m of the I don’t care 🤷♂️ side of things, it only takes a few seconds to do so I don’t get my knickers in a twist
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Post by zx9 on Oct 3, 2024 14:45:44 GMT
Out of interest I just looked at Proboards, 24 cookies and almost 350K of data ...
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Post by spinno on Oct 3, 2024 15:36:45 GMT
Out of interest I just looked at Proboards, 24 cookies and almost 350K of data ... You're a popular guy... |
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Post by zou on Oct 3, 2024 20:33:54 GMT
Out of interest I just looked at Proboards, 24 cookies and almost 350K of data ... Is that a packet? |
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Post by don on Oct 8, 2024 14:55:36 GMT
A Packet Steamer?
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