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Post by mick on Aug 18, 2024 8:16:07 GMT
Prompted by something in the 'joke thread'.
On a boring M'way journey recently, I fell to reading and wondering about the 'ads' on the other vehicles.
First a van absolutely covered in small writing. No way could I make out what it was saying. I could just read the company name but not the phone number and have no clue as to the product or services offered.
Second a lorry with a large company name, no location or phone number and the slogan, "Where logisitcs meets capacity". I admit that I’m not 100% about that - traffic conditions were against me.
The point was that IMHO money had been spent to no effect.
I wonder what Roving Mike (remember him?) would say.
Have you any more examples?
Mick
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Post by zou on Aug 18, 2024 8:46:00 GMT
Agreed it's a total waste of money; cargo vehicles famously never stop moving AND we all know 99.99% of logistics business is secured by word of mouth recommendations.
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Post by MJB on Aug 18, 2024 8:54:19 GMT
Agreed it's a total waste of money; cargo vehicles famously never stop moving AND we all know 99.99% of logistics business is secured by word of mouth recommendations. Are you saying this didn't work on you?
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Post by zou on Aug 18, 2024 8:56:34 GMT
Agreed it's a total waste of money; cargo vehicles famously never stop moving AND we all know 99.99% of logistics business is secured by word of mouth recommendations. Are you saying this didn't work on you? Preaching to the converted.
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Post by spinno on Aug 18, 2024 9:00:22 GMT
Agreed it's a total waste of money; cargo vehicles famously never stop moving AND we all know 99.99% of logistics business is secured by word of mouth recommendations. Are you saying this didn't work on you? Is that a mobile brothel?
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Post by dreampolice on Aug 18, 2024 9:17:19 GMT
When we moved house in 2016, I pulled up behind a removal company truck at some lights. Clearly marked with name and contact details. Took a photo, looked them up, got a quote and hired them for the job. Considerably cheaper than anyone else and very good too. Clearly worked for them.
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Post by Chester PB on Aug 18, 2024 16:00:51 GMT
Prompted by something in the 'joke thread'.
On a boring M'way journey recently, I fell to reading and wondering about the 'ads' on the other vehicles.
First a van absolutely covered in small writing. No way could I make out what it was saying. I could just read the company name but not the phone number and have no clue as to the product or services offered.
Second a lorry with a large company name, no location or phone number and the slogan, "Where logisitcs meets capacity". I admit that I’m not 100% about that - traffic conditions were against me.
The point was that IMHO money had been spent to no effect.
I wonder what Roving Mike (remember him?) would say.
Have you any more examples?
Mick
Were you the driver whilst reading all these things on lorries, or merely a bored passenger? The former is probably a dangerous distraction and the latter suggests taking a book with you or investing in a Kindle. Many years ago, I spent half an hour twice a day for 2 years in my employer's minibus travelling to and from work, and managed to read most of the novels of Graham Greene. I recall once seeing written on filthy white van the creative graffito 'also available in white'. However, I wasn't driving at the time.
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Post by mick on Aug 19, 2024 8:12:41 GMT
Prompted by something in the 'joke thread'.
On a boring M'way journey recently, I fell to reading and wondering about the 'ads' on the other vehicles.
First a van absolutely covered in small writing. No way could I make out what it was saying. I could just read the company name but not the phone number and have no clue as to the product or services offered.
Second a lorry with a large company name, no location or phone number and the slogan, "Where logisitcs meets capacity". I admit that I’m not 100% about that - traffic conditions were against me.
The point was that IMHO money had been spent to no effect.
I wonder what Roving Mike (remember him?) would say.
Have you any more examples?
Mick
Were you the driver whilst reading all these things on lorries, or merely a bored passenger? The former is probably a dangerous distraction and the latter suggests taking a book with you or investing in a Kindle. Many years ago, I spent half an hour twice a day for 2 years in my employer's minibus travelling to and from work, and managed to read most of the novels of Graham Greene. I recall once seeing written on filthy white van the creative graffito 'also available in white'. However, I wasn't driving at the time. Are you a slow reader?
Following your 'dangerous distraction' remark maybe all on vehicle lettering should be banned. Maybe all those over head gantry signs; 'don't drink and drive', 'don't drive while tired', 'take a break', J7 10 minutes' should also be forbidden. Direction signs? No way much too distracting!
Anyway to answer your question - both. We swapped drivers part way through the journey.
Mick
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Post by spinno on Aug 19, 2024 8:17:27 GMT
Were you the driver whilst reading all these things on lorries, or merely a bored passenger? The former is probably a dangerous distraction and the latter suggests taking a book with you or investing in a Kindle. Many years ago, I spent half an hour twice a day for 2 years in my employer's minibus travelling to and from work, and managed to read most of the novels of Graham Greene. I recall once seeing written on filthy white van the creative graffito 'also available in white'. However, I wasn't driving at the time. Are you a slow reader?
Following your 'dangerous distraction' remark maybe all on vehicle lettering should be banned. Maybe all those over head gantry signs; 'don't drink and drive', 'don't drive while tired', 'take a break', J7 10 minutes' should also be forbidden. Direction signs? No way much too distracting!
Anyway to answer your question - both. We swapped drivers part way through the journey.
Mick
it's rather like the drivers who say they missed the road signage because they were concentrating on their driving...to me that is suggestive of driving without due care and attention
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Post by mick on Aug 19, 2024 8:24:11 GMT
But that's entirely possible! I've done it when in an especially tricky traffic situation and missed a signpost. It's also happened when signs have been obscured by large vehicles. Not on an M'way though - you get loads and loads of warning and lots of opportunity there.
Mick
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Post by dreampolice on Aug 19, 2024 8:48:15 GMT
I think it is only natural to notice things such as signs on vehicles etc when driving. it shows observation skills and not being totally oblivious to the surroundings. if things like that distract you to the point of being dangerous, I suggest you post your driving licence back to the DVLA.
I will often pass a vehicle, signed or unsigned, car or truck, which will later pass me, or I will pass again after taking a rest break for instance. I will recognise it, sometimes by its VRM. I was never distracted in doing so, but just observing vehicles as I drive, rather than concentrate on the bonnet of my car like a lot of folks seem to do.
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Post by spinno on Aug 19, 2024 9:13:27 GMT
I think it is only natural to notice things such as signs on vehicles etc when driving. it shows observation skills and not being totally oblivious to the surroundings. if things like that distract you to the point of being dangerous, I suggest you post your driving licence back to the DVLA. I will often pass a vehicle, signed or unsigned, car or truck, which will later pass me, or I will pass again after taking a rest break for instance. I will recognise it, sometimes by its VRM. I was never distracted in doing so, but just observing vehicles as I drive, rather than concentrate on the bonnet of my car like a lot of folks seem to do. Aren't you supposed to change focus whilst driving so you don't fall asleep?
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Post by peterob on Aug 19, 2024 9:16:14 GMT
Are you a slow reader?
Following your 'dangerous distraction' remark maybe all on vehicle lettering should be banned. Maybe all those over head gantry signs; 'don't drink and drive', 'don't drive while tired', 'take a break', J7 10 minutes' should also be forbidden. Direction signs? No way much too distracting!
Anyway to answer your question - both. We swapped drivers part way through the journey.
Mick
it's rather like the drivers who say they missed the road signage because they were concentrating on their driving...to me that is suggestive of driving without due care and attention Amazing how many folk hit the brakes hard to give themselves time to read motorway overhead gantry messages.
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Post by spinno on Aug 19, 2024 9:19:25 GMT
it's rather like the drivers who say they missed the road signage because they were concentrating on their driving...to me that is suggestive of driving without due care and attention Amazing how many folk hit the brakes hard to give themselves time to read motorway overhead gantry messages. and avoid the speed cameras that are often perched on them...
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Post by geoffr on Aug 19, 2024 9:38:09 GMT
Missing a road sign is easily done, large vehicles can block the line of sight, foliage can obscure part or all of a sign or, as I noticed last week in Suffolk, the sign can be so faded as to be illegible. The other possible reason being an over abundance of signage. I have often seen an excessive number of signs on various roads one particularly annoying one being a diversion sign partially obscuring a motorway exit board. Personally I find the mobile dot matrix signs problematic, they sometimes contain more information than I can read in the time available, bearing in mind that the sign is not what I need to concentrate on.
I find the obsession with speed concerning, 20 mph limits are a good idea in principle but they tend to be applied in areas where observation of the road environment is important, around school for example. A driver who is constantly looking down at the speedometer isn’t observing the surroundings. It isn’t every car that has a cruise control that can maintain 20 mph and/or has a speed limiter. Recent research, driving around an unfamiliar part of the country, reveals that a good proportion of speed limit signs are obscured, defaced, or completely absent (a sign on only one side of the road where the limit changes). A good number are inappropriately positioned, a speed reduction immediately after a bend when it would be more appropriately positioned before the bend for example. Not to mention roads where the limit changes every few miles, I understand the need for 30 in a village but sometimes it would seem to be safer to keep the lower limit between villages.
It seems to me that there can be far too much information presented to road users in some places and too little in others. I am sure someone will disagree.
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