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Post by zou on Feb 22, 2024 20:50:57 GMT
What do you reckon, couple of weeks, somewhere exotic? Sunny Dunny springs to mind. You're too sharp to be retired.  |
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Post by willien on Feb 22, 2024 21:01:11 GMT
Sunny Dunny springs to mind. You're too sharp to be retired. I was not put out to grass. I was fortunate enough to be able to say **** this for a game of Sodgers. |
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Post by spinno on Feb 22, 2024 21:09:17 GMT
You're too sharp to be retired. I was not put out to grass. I was fortunate enough to be able to say **** this for a game of Sodgers. They changed the person spec to get rid of me, no way would I go quietly once they wanted me to leave... |
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Post by willien on Feb 22, 2024 21:21:48 GMT
I was not put out to grass. I was fortunate enough to be able to say **** this for a game of Sodgers. They changed the person spec to get rid of me, no way would I go quietly once they wanted me to leave... Hope you got a better deal than me - I gave up and handed in my retiral notice. |
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Post by spinno on Feb 22, 2024 21:29:17 GMT
They changed the person spec to get rid of me, no way would I go quietly once they wanted me to leave... Hope you got a better deal than me - I gave up and handed in my retiral notice. They generously gave me a golden farewell gratuity. Worth not fighting the job loss over. As luck would have it(!) within the year I'd had my cardiac arrest and who knows what could have happened had I'd been stressfully employed... I think I may well have dodged at least one bullet if not two... |
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Post by willien on Feb 22, 2024 21:48:34 GMT
Hope you got a better deal than me - I gave up and handed in my retiral notice. They generously gave me a golden farewell gratuity. Worth not fighting the job loss over. As luck would have it(!) within the year I'd had my cardiac arrest and who knows what could have happened had I'd been stressfully employed... I think I may well have dodged at least one bullet if not two... Glad for you David and, speaking personally, I am glad you are , still aboot and, posting here.  |
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Post by mick on Feb 23, 2024 9:40:47 GMT
I watched Question Time last night. Two panellists were Labour and Tory women (forgot their names - sorry). Both had received threats, and the threatener in both cases has been apprehended and convicted.
I don't think that we should minimize the danger to our MP's given the number of real nutters that seem to populate our streets.
Mick
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Post by kate on Feb 23, 2024 9:49:54 GMT
I watched Question Time last night. Two panellists were Labour and Tory women (forgot their names - sorry). Both had received threats, and the threatener in both cases has been apprehended and convicted. I don't think that we should minimize the danger to our MP's given the number of real nutters that seem to populate our streets. Mick I feel more threatened by our MPs than anyone out on the streets. And I don't say this glibly. Each law enacted erodes our freedom of expression. Democracy is now simply the right to vote... and even that comes with conditions attached. |
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Post by mick on Feb 23, 2024 11:09:20 GMT
Kate I don't ever remember 'taking you to task' before now. I think that you know, full well, that the two threats are different. You are entitled to your opinion (I even share it to some extent) but the threats the MP's are getting include stabbing, arson and other physical violence. Mick
PS Edit. We are not talking about theoretical attacks. Recently there was an arson attack at the home of a , I think, Labour MP. There was that chap stabbed to death in his office and many instances of the police having to disperse 'protestors' from the homes of MP's. I'm all for letting one's MP know your opinion but think that threats of physical violence or involving the family isn't acceptable.
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Post by zou on Feb 23, 2024 11:42:03 GMT
Mike Freer's threatener has no link to this issue, and it seems neither does the alleged arson on the MP's office. If you are aware of any death threats or threats of violence to MPs from anti-genocide campaigners, please link to them. The speaker appears to have slandered a peaceful movement, but why?
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Post by kate on Feb 23, 2024 11:52:51 GMT
Mike Freer's threatener has no link to this issue, and it seems neither does the alleged arson on the MP's office. If you are aware of any death threats or threats of violence to MPs from anti-genocide campaigners, please link to them. The speaker appears to have slandered a peaceful movement, but why? Easy answer? Because he/they mustn't be seen to support the Palestinians. That would be considered AS and that can't be allowed. Also the Palestinians can't afford our Arms and we don't rely on them for anything... PS and of course we are building up to the election and we mustn't have any shows of displeasure from the population if anyone is seen questioning someone canvassing on the streets. Any group will be classified as a mob and promptly arrested. |
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Post by kate on Feb 23, 2024 12:23:17 GMT
Kate I don't ever remember 'taking you to task' before now. I think that you know, full well, that the two threats are different. You are entitled to your opinion (I even share it to some extent) but the threats the MP's are getting include stabbing, arson and other physical violence. Mick
PS Edit. We are not talking about theoretical attacks. Recently there was an arson attack at the home of a , I think, Labour MP. There was that chap stabbed to death in his office and many instances of the police having to disperse 'protestors' from the homes of MP's. I'm all for letting one's MP know your opinion but think that threats of physical violence or involving the family isn't acceptable.
I hear what you say, but as Zou asked, were these linked to peaceful protests about our support for the war against Palestine? I ask one question. If you saw someone beating a child in the street, or burying someone under rubble, or being shot for shouting at someone on the other side of a wall, would you stand by? Or hand the aggressor more ammunition? |
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Post by spinno on Feb 23, 2024 12:39:02 GMT
Kate I don't ever remember 'taking you to task' before now. I think that you know, full well, that the two threats are different. You are entitled to your opinion (I even share it to some extent) but the threats the MP's are getting include stabbing, arson and other physical violence. Mick PS Edit. We are not talking about theoretical attacks. Recently there was an arson attack at the home of a , I think, Labour MP. There was that chap stabbed to death in his office and many instances of the police having to disperse 'protestors' from the homes of MP's. I'm all for letting one's MP know your opinion but think that threats of physical violence or involving the family isn't acceptable.
I hear what you say, but as Zou asked, were these linked to peaceful protests about our support for the war against Palestine? I ask one question. If you saw someone beating a child in the street, or burying someone under rubble, or being shot for shouting at someone on the other side of a wall, would you stand by? Or hand the aggressor more ammunition? The trouble is nowadays freedom of speech and protest comes at a high price as far as some people are concerned, and "any old wacko can hide in a crowd". I find I can't disagree with either of you Mick and Kate. You are both correct. |
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Post by mick on Feb 23, 2024 14:31:11 GMT
Kate/Zou,
We are at (slightly) cross purposes. I wasn't talking just about the Israel/Gaza situation. I was trying to make a general point. I strongly believe that MP's, however much we disagree with them, should be protected from threats and from 'the mob'. That's not to say that they shouldn't be challenged and challenged vigorously but to make death threats and involve their families is beyond the pale.
Remember that two MP's have been stabbed to death in recent times (Cox and Ammess if memory serves) and others have come under other attack. We can't have parliament being controlled by the thug with the biggest stick.
Mick
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Post by spinno on Feb 23, 2024 14:38:22 GMT
Kate/Zou, We are at (slightly) cross purposes. I wasn't talking just about the Israel/Gaza situation. I was trying to make a general point. I strongly believe that MP's, however much we disagree with them, should be protected from threats and from 'the mob'. That's not to say that they shouldn't be challenged and challenged vigorously but to make death threats and involve their families is beyond the pale. Remember that two MP's have been stabbed to death in recent times (Cox and Ammess if memory serves) and others have come under other attack. We can't have parliament being controlled by the thug with the biggest stick. Mick Jo Cox was shot and stabbed, but it makes not a jot of difference, she was murdered doing her job, however unpleasant that job is becoming and however much someone might disagree with the jobholder, it is not be a reason to be assassinated. |
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