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Post by peterob on Feb 17, 2024 8:57:11 GMT
It is quite quick and it does run Lightroom OK but there is a problem with the USB ports that seems (from the internet) common to many Apple Silicon macs. It is very fussy about what can be connected to it. In particular the two USB-A ports, and of course it is those that made it attractive over a mac mini or new imac, since just about everything I own terminates in a USB-A socket. It really hates the wired keyboard and I have to say that being faced with the need to enter a password and having no keyboard is a right pain. I've had to buy three USB-C to USB-A adaptors. The front USB-C ports don't like anything that asks for power. It'll turn a port off. The only way to get it back is to reboot. The only way to get the keyboard to work after a reboot is to plug/unplug/plug the USB socket quickly. Get the timing wrong and it won't work. So a lot of fun and games. ... and the Bank website still says update your browser. That sounds frustrating. Have you spoken to Apple yet..? I’m still sort of envious 😣 No point. Everything I have found out has an established internet history. Apple official position is to return machine for repair, which does nothing except deprive you of a computer for weeks. Another whizz - the apple silicon desktops don't sleep. If they sleep this disables the USB ports. This is dressed up as the fact they are so energy efficient that sleeping isn't necessary. The problem is liveable with, just annoying. I was very impressed with the migration. I just plugged the back-up disk in (called Time-Machine disk because it does incremental backups) and the new computer just asks if you want to restore from backup. Then it does. More or less everything. |
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Post by don on Feb 17, 2024 9:55:06 GMT
That sounds frustrating. Have you spoken to Apple yet..? I’m still sort of envious 😣 No point. Everything I have found out has an established internet history. Apple official position is to return machine for repair, which does nothing except deprive you of a computer for weeks. Another whizz - the apple silicon desktops don't sleep. If they sleep this disables the USB ports. This is dressed up as the fact they are so energy efficient that sleeping isn't necessary. The problem is liveable with, just annoying. I was very impressed with the migration. I just plugged the back-up disk in (called Time-Machine disk because it does incremental backups) and the new computer just asks if you want to restore from backup. Then it does. More or less everything. Say what you like about Apple the ain’t bad are they I’d have one in a flash my old G4 was a thing of beauty and if I could get away with it I would have one on a shelf or hung on a wall just to admire like fine art |
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Post by zou on Feb 17, 2024 9:57:23 GMT
Honestly reading all that makes me think I'd never buy one. Crappy performance dressed up as a superior product. No thanks.
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Post by peterob on Feb 17, 2024 12:18:06 GMT
Honestly reading all that makes me think I'd never buy one. Crappy performance dressed up as a superior product. No thanks. Performance is fine. USB ports pernickety but we've had PCs with worse port problems. The imac gave 10 years faultless service, then 2 more with more memory and a SSD added. Having to change computer because the old hardware can't meet modern software demands was annoying but it is the same with PCs. None of ours will run Win 11 and the one I use for office work runs very slowly now after updating from Win 8.1 to Win 10 and that was bought in late 2015, after I retired. I'm very much enjoying being able to run the latest Lightroom and I've even tried to use Photoshop. |
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Post by zou on Feb 17, 2024 12:49:46 GMT
Honestly reading all that makes me think I'd never buy one. Crappy performance dressed up as a superior product. No thanks. Performance is fine. USB ports pernickety but we've had PCs with worse port problems. The imac gave 10 years faultless service, then 2 more with more memory and a SSD added. Having to change computer because the old hardware can't meet modern software demands was annoying but it is the same with PCs. None of ours will run Win 11 and the one I use for office work runs very slowly now after updating from Win 8.1 to Win 10 and that was bought in late 2015, after I retired. I'm very much enjoying being able to run the latest Lightroom and I've even tried to use Photoshop. Obviously our experiences are all different but I've never encountered that type of issue with USB ports on any of my PCs. If it's a known issue that Apple aren't addressing, I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole. |
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Post by peterob on Feb 17, 2024 13:28:00 GMT
Performance is fine. USB ports pernickety but we've had PCs with worse port problems. The imac gave 10 years faultless service, then 2 more with more memory and a SSD added. Having to change computer because the old hardware can't meet modern software demands was annoying but it is the same with PCs. None of ours will run Win 11 and the one I use for office work runs very slowly now after updating from Win 8.1 to Win 10 and that was bought in late 2015, after I retired. I'm very much enjoying being able to run the latest Lightroom and I've even tried to use Photoshop. Obviously our experiences are all different but I've never encountered that type of issue with USB ports on any of my PCs. If it's a known issue that Apple aren't addressing, I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole. Hopefully they'll fix it in an OS upgrade. I'll go and ask an Apple Guru at the Liverpool store. It is related to power draw on the port. The old imac used to put up a message that the device was trying to draw too much power on the port and that it was disabling the charging capability but the port would still function as a data port. The studio is all silent about what it does but seems to close the individual port completely. There will be a software solution. I was very narked at it during set up because I didn't know what I was doing. I'm OK about it now I know. I guess they never tested a USB keyboard. Apple have used wireless keyboards exclusively for years. The old wired one has two USB ports in it and acts as a hub which is useful and probably the studio USB-A ports aren't expecting a hub to be connected. My WD (powered) hard drive is connected and works perfectly. The (several) main ports on the studio are all USB-C. At worst a reboot of the computer is needed to restore functionality. I've only had to start it twice so far - once after migrating all my user account to it and once after it did an autoupdate to 14.3.1. We've had several PC's with dodgy USB ports, some that work with some devices and not with others, some that just stop working. My office PC drops the power to the ports if the room gets too hot, which can happen in summer. I found this out in a conference call when my USB conference phone died. We have just replaced my wife's PC - that was down to one working USB port and the front ones would never accept a Portable HDD (powered through the port) or memory stick. |
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