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Post by daves on Dec 17, 2023 13:23:38 GMT
Ah, I see the logos now that I'm looking for grey squiggles, I thought they were part of the underlying design before.
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Post by JohnY on Dec 17, 2023 15:07:46 GMT
I like the images. willien , I had the same problem as you. Are you using Firefox with the Facebook container active or maybe a different browser with similar functionality? I am using firefox, not aware of having facebook container active though I vaguely remember taking up an offer from firefox to stop facebook tracking me at some point. When Fen mentioned a link to his facebook page, which I could not see, I opened his facebook page manually but could not see them there. I was wrong about the Facebook Container. In this instance that was not the problem. Facebook should have opened in a sand box if the container was active. I think that the problem was caused by blocking cross site tracking. I should have guessed because I had problems seeing D Telegraph videos which were hosted on YouTube. In Firefox on the address bar to the left of the address I think you will see a shield (as well as other stuff). In future if you have problems following links across sites then left click the shield and choose your options. Also for future Facebook problems the container might need adjustment. It is represented by a picket fence near the right hand side of the address bar.
Anyway back to the images. I am impressed and particularly like the first one. I wonder if a bit more space between the subject and edge of the canvas would be an improvement and also allow for errors in the card production.
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Post by peterob on Dec 17, 2023 15:45:30 GMT
I've always seen them, but they were not covered in logos. Peter - They always had the logos over them. That's the only version that is online  If, as suggested, you mean the grey lines then I thought they were part of the art-work (I'm lost with anything arty). I was expecting something like a copyright statement - or an obvious banner. |
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Post by willien on Dec 17, 2023 17:25:17 GMT
Willien, JohnY - Originally the post had links to the versions I posted on Facebook. After editing the post, it now links to the versions on my website - That's why you can see them now. ----------------------- Willien - Not seeing them on Facebook - That might have been due to 'friend settings'. Are we friends on Facebook? I do not believe so, so that is probably it. |
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Post by kate on Dec 17, 2023 17:46:07 GMT
Ah, but who owns the copyright?  |
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Post by JohnY on Dec 17, 2023 20:54:40 GMT
Ah, but who owns the copyright? Now that is a good question or rather questions. We don't know how much creative input Fen put into it? If we did then would that be relevant? How much creative input did the designers of the AI put into it? How many images stolen from the internet were put into it? Notice how I expressed that last question. Did my use of the word stolen have any influence on your perception? A large part of AI is learnt from common perception found on this interweb thingy. That observation suggests that AI is just very clever plagiarism. I think kate you have hit an important nail on the head
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Post by dreampolice on Dec 17, 2023 21:16:27 GMT
There are some artists that have made collages using cut out bits from magazines, be it bits of images or letters from titles etc. They may use the colours from the magazine images to make up a totally new image (I am sure you are familiar with the type of thing). Who owns the copyright there?I am sure it will be the new artist. Is using AI any different?
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Post by JohnY on Dec 17, 2023 21:32:05 GMT
But who is the new artist? The creator of the AI could resolve some doubt by relinquishing any ownership of output by their customers. Do they do that?
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Post by zou on Dec 17, 2023 21:57:55 GMT
There are some artists that have made collages using cut out bits from magazines, be it bits of images or letters from titles etc. They may use the colours from the magazine images to make up a totally new image (I am sure you are familiar with the type of thing). Who owns the copyright there?I am sure it will be the new artist. Is using AI any different? It all comes down to "fair use". Warhol famously claimed that for stealing other artists' work without attribution, but earlier this year there was a case centred on Warhol's use of a photo of Prince which he had claimed was fair use as it had been published publicly. Court upheld that it was not fair use, so there will be financial implications and an interesting precedent. |
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Post by willien on Dec 17, 2023 23:23:25 GMT
There are some artists that have made collages using cut out bits from magazines, be it bits of images or letters from titles etc. They may use the colours from the magazine images to make up a totally new image (I am sure you are familiar with the type of thing). Who owns the copyright there?I am sure it will be the new artist. Is using AI any different? IMO Fen has a licence to use the PS resources to create his own original work. Ergo WTF - wrote an LLb.
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Post by Fenris on Dec 18, 2023 12:20:04 GMT
Is that what those grey squiggles are? Ah, I see the logos now that I'm looking for grey squiggles, I thought they were part of the underlying design before. Yes, it's this picture:  They're an invasive species that have driven red squiggles into remote pockets. Hahahahahaaaa very good  If, as suggested, you mean the grey lines then I thought they were part of the art-work (I'm lost with anything arty). I was expecting something like a copyright statement - or an obvious banner. I do it this way as it's less obtrusive but a pain in the arse to edit them out of the image. ]Anyway back to the images. I am impressed and particularly like the first one. I wonder if a bit more space between the subject and edge of the canvas would be an improvement and also allow for errors in the card production. Thank you. This isn't the final artwork that is being used for the cards. As for the discussion on who owns AI generated art... that's a whole thread/discussion in itself! |
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Post by spinno on Dec 18, 2023 12:24:32 GMT
As for the discussion on who owns AI generated art... that's a whole thread/discussion in itself! Ah!, Just as it was getting interesting... |
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