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Post by kate on Oct 9, 2023 9:47:45 GMT
1945 Middle East
Diary entries October 1945
On XX Scheme in morning - 15 mile run to Beit Nabala (nb Bayt Nabala was among 530 Palestinian villages destroyed at Israel's birth. Its people still dream of returning home.) - quite interesting. Writing in the afternoon. On Latrun set all night.
Fleeting glimpse of Peter Irvine.
Definitely big flap on - standing by all day. Sent to Tel Aviv on special wireless job with Cpl(?) Segar. Four flats up on Citrus House.
Chat with some 6th Airborne - not impressed.
And still it goes on.
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Post by don on Mar 9, 2024 12:31:16 GMT
I’m replying to this thread because no one has done so and also because I spent a lot of time thinking about Palestine 🇵🇸 this morning. All of this devastation has been caused by Hammas kidnapping and killing Jews back in October. Why have the Palestinian people not taken Hammas and given them to the Jewish people or released the hostages? I’m sorry but Hammas caused this chaos and the fact it’s been happening since 1945 is underlined the fact that they glory in their own pain.
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Post by kate on Mar 9, 2024 13:39:43 GMT
I’m replying to this thread because no one has done so and also because I spent a lot of time thinking about Palestine 🇵🇸 this morning. All of this devastation has been caused by Hammas kidnapping and killing Jews back in October. Why have the Palestinian people not taken Hammas and given them to the Jewish people or released the hostages? I’m sorry but Hammas caused this chaos and the fact it’s been happening since 1945 is underlined the fact that they glory in their own pain. Suffice to say I disagree with all you've said. |
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Post by willien on Mar 9, 2024 13:41:41 GMT
I’m replying to this thread because no one has done so and also because I spent a lot of time thinking about Palestine 🇵🇸 this morning. All of this devastation has been caused by Hammas kidnapping and killing Jews back in October. Why have the Palestinian people not taken Hammas and given them to the Jewish people or released the hostages? I’m sorry but Hammas caused this chaos and the fact it’s been happening since 1945 is underlined the fact that they glory in their own pain. Suffice to say I disagree with all you've said. Me too. |
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Post by Chester PB on Mar 9, 2024 16:01:51 GMT
The best informed observation about Israel and its neighbours was made by Alistair Cooke in a Letter from America broadcast many years ago, in which he explained that President Truman had announced the US recognition of the state of Israel in 1948, against the advice of most of his 'foreign desk' staff in the White House who foresaw the results. The way in which many Palestinians then living in what was declared to be the Jewish Homeland were forcibly evicted is conveniently overlooked by politicians in Israel.
My memory of this broadcast is clear, but I cannot find it on the BBC Sounds website where they are many other Letter from America broadcasts. Perhaps it has been conveniently lost.
However, I did find one Letter from the early 1990s, which was about the sudden exodus of over a million Jews from Russia that the new government had allowed, after decades of very restricted emigration during the Soviet era. Many wanted to go to the USA, but existing quota rules prevented this so most went to Israel which hurriedly had to build new homes for them, and did so in the 'occupied territories'.
My father served in Palestine for a few months at the end of World War 2, and would never talk about it apart from referring to the Jews killing British soldiers as Nazis. |
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Post by mike40 on Mar 9, 2024 16:03:19 GMT
I’m replying to this thread because no one has done so and also because I spent a lot of time thinking about Palestine 🇵🇸 this morning. All of this devastation has been caused by Hammas kidnapping and killing Jews back in October. Why have the Palestinian people not taken Hammas and given them to the Jewish people or released the hostages? I’m sorry but Hammas caused this chaos and the fact it’s been happening since 1945 is underlined the fact that they glory in their own pain. I cannot agree with one word of this. There's so much history to this situation that, to a sane mind, renders the current conflict incomprehensible but inevitable. The fact that there is wrong on both sides excuses nothing but this barbarity - reminiscent of the Middle Ages at their worst - should not continue. See this and disagree:
Take care,
Mike
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Post by zou on Mar 9, 2024 18:04:23 GMT
I’m replying to this thread because no one has done so and also because I spent a lot of time thinking about Palestine 🇵🇸 this morning. All of this devastation has been caused by Hammas kidnapping and killing Jews back in October. Why have the Palestinian people not taken Hammas and given them to the Jewish people or released the hostages? I’m sorry but Hammas caused this chaos and the fact it’s been happening since 1945 is underlined the fact that they glory in their own pain. And I'm another in disagreement with what you've posted. |
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Post by Chester PB on Mar 9, 2024 22:36:20 GMT
I’m replying to this thread because no one has done so and also because I spent a lot of time thinking about Palestine 🇵🇸 this morning. All of this devastation has been caused by Hammas kidnapping and killing Jews back in October. Why have the Palestinian people not taken Hammas and given them to the Jewish people or released the hostages? I’m sorry but Hammas caused this chaos and the fact it’s been happening since 1945 is underlined the fact that they glory in their own pain. And I'm another in disagreement with what you've posted. If Don's second sentence had been written as 'All of this latest devastation has been caused by Hamas kidnapping and killing Jews back in October' I suspect that more of us might have agreed. One word can make so much difference. |
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Post by willien on Mar 9, 2024 22:40:18 GMT
And I'm another in disagreement with what you've posted. If Don's second sentence had been written as 'All of this latest devastation has been caused by Hamas kidnapping and killing Jews back in October' I suspect that more of us might have agreed. One word can make so much difference. Not in my name. |
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Post by zou on Mar 10, 2024 6:19:18 GMT
If Don's second sentence had been written as 'All of this latest devastation has been caused by Hamas kidnapping and killing Jews back in October' I suspect that more of us might have agreed. One word can make so much difference. Not in my name. Same. |
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Post by kate on Mar 10, 2024 16:59:25 GMT
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Post by Chester PB on Mar 10, 2024 17:02:22 GMT
'More' is not the same as 'all'. I always try to use the language carefully. |
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Post by willien on Mar 10, 2024 17:18:39 GMT
'More' is not the same as 'all'. I always try to use the language carefully. I did not suggest otherwise. |
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Post by zou on Mar 10, 2024 17:41:37 GMT
'More' is not the same as 'all'. I always try to use the language carefully. I did not suggest otherwise. Same. |
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Post by andy on Mar 10, 2024 18:04:40 GMT
Saw that earlier. For some reason them not stunning livestock before slaughter came to mind today. It's not kosher unless it suffers. |
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