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Post by JohnY on Jul 30, 2023 22:15:08 GMT
40 Celsius is getting a bit close to 50 Celsius and 50 Celsius is the temperature to which, this evening, I cooked a joint of beef. Sure the 50 degree beef was the core temperature before standing time and the core would have got a bit hotter while my spuds cooked. Never the less things are hotting up a bit. I am not panicking. I realise that all nations need to do their bit. But what difference do we make when China, USA, and India are belching out carbon dioxide to the extent that they produce more carbon dioxide in a year than we did since the 1850's. The beef was excellent by the way. The colour of the middle of the third slice matched the colour of a glass of Pinot Noir as seen against a white place mat.
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Post by spinno on Jul 31, 2023 5:37:41 GMT
You could always ask those with heart and lung conditions - including yourself- how easy it is to perform everyday tasks when you feel like you're suffocating
You could always ask those who have lost their homes and lives in the wildfires- we have them in this country but generally it's just small scale stuff so it doesn't matter
We refuse to learn because someone else will ignore all the above and we will miss out on making a few bob
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Post by geoffr on Jul 31, 2023 10:06:21 GMT
You could always ask those with heart and lung conditions - including yourself- how easy it is to perform everyday tasks when you feel like you're suffocating You could always ask those who have lost their homes and lives in the wildfires- we have them in this country but generally it's just small scale stuff so it doesn't matter We refuse to learn because someone else will ignore all the above and we will miss out on making a few bob Wildfires aren’t new, yes we refuse to learn, which is probably why forests still don’t have adequate fire breaks. Forests need to be managed and undergrowth cleared to reduce the spread of wildfires. We have to plan as though we won’t contain temperatures and if we do it will be a bonus. Plan for the worst, hope for the best. Currently we aren’t planning for the worst because we don’t think we can afford it. I don’t see that we have any other option. |
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Post by aitch on Jul 31, 2023 10:16:52 GMT
You could always ask those with heart and lung conditions - including yourself- how easy it is to perform everyday tasks when you feel like you're suffocating You could always ask those who have lost their homes and lives in the wildfires- we have them in this country but generally it's just small scale stuff so it doesn't matter We refuse to learn because someone else will ignore all the above and we will miss out on making a few bob Wildfires aren’t new, yes we refuse to learn, which is probably why forests still don’t have adequate fire breaks. Forests need to be managed and undergrowth cleared to reduce the spread of wildfires. We have to plan as though we won’t contain temperatures and if we do it will be a bonus. Plan for the worst, hope for the best. Currently we aren’t planning for the worst because we don’t think we can afford it. I don’t see that we have any other option. Don't forests need the odd wildfire ? ISTR certain trees' seeds need the heat to germinate. |
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Post by geoffr on Jul 31, 2023 10:27:58 GMT
Wildfires aren’t new, yes we refuse to learn, which is probably why forests still don’t have adequate fire breaks. Forests need to be managed and undergrowth cleared to reduce the spread of wildfires. We have to plan as though we won’t contain temperatures and if we do it will be a bonus. Plan for the worst, hope for the best. Currently we aren’t planning for the worst because we don’t think we can afford it. I don’t see that we have any other option. Don't forests need the odd wildfire ? ISTR certain trees' seeds need the heat to germinate. Indeed so depending on the trees and location. I know of Australian species that need wildfires and the indigenous peoples are expert at burning undergrowth without causing uncontrolled wildfires. We don’t seem to have that expertise over here. |
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Post by willien on Jul 31, 2023 10:54:52 GMT
Lodge pole and Jack pole pines (NA) need fire to germinate and it is thought that a large part of Australias wild fire problems have been caused by an enlightened honky government stopping the indigenous population carrying out regular controlled burning.
IIRC Yellowstone had a problem for a while because they got too good at putting out wild fires therefore the natural cycle was disrupted.
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Post by andy on Jul 31, 2023 12:01:21 GMT
We need forests but forests don't need us.
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Post by don on Aug 1, 2023 6:20:17 GMT
Don't forests need the odd wildfire ? ISTR certain trees' seeds need the heat to germinate. Indeed so depending on the trees and location. I know of Australian species that need wildfires and the indigenous peoples are expert at burning undergrowth without causing uncontrolled wildfires. We don’t seem to have that expertise over here. My dad had trouble burning stubble in a field 60 years ago, I remember it as being a scary thing l was eight years old |
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Post by spinno on Aug 1, 2023 6:33:38 GMT
Indeed so depending on the trees and location. I know of Australian species that need wildfires and the indigenous peoples are expert at burning undergrowth without causing uncontrolled wildfires. We don’t seem to have that expertise over here. My dad had trouble burning stubble in a field 60 years ago, I remember it as being a scary thing l was eight years old He didn't like shaving? |
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Post by don on Aug 1, 2023 7:54:39 GMT
My dad had trouble burning stubble in a field 60 years ago, I remember it as being a scary thing l was eight years old He didn't like shaving? He had already shaved the field of wheat with a combine harvester and burning the stubble set fire to a forest 🌳 🌳 |
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Post by willien on Aug 1, 2023 10:50:18 GMT
My dad had trouble burning stubble in a field 60 years ago, I remember it as being a scary thing l was eight years old He didn't like shaving? Don is obviously almost named after his father Desperate Dan. |
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Post by spinno on Aug 1, 2023 10:54:51 GMT
Don is obviously almost named after his father Desperate Dan. Has Don a taste for Cow Pie, we should be told. |
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