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Post by Kath on Apr 8, 2023 16:48:01 GMT
Feargal? Were The Undertones punks? They certainly started as punk, but by the end were verging on psychedelia. When the sleeve notes for their Best Of compilation were written, one of the band (guitarist?) had a cousin who hadnt spoken to him since about 1980... though if the comments on this vid are to be believed he's mellowed since. Documentary on the Undertones.... must look that out! I guess I just thought of them as 'rock' rather than 'punk rock' but hey ho. That is still one of my favourite songs although it brings back some slightly traumatic memories. My brother was (is?) an ardent football fan and for Christmas that year he had asked for a 'Liverpool top and subbuteo'. Mum and Dad, not being the least bit interested in popular culture/football/keeping up with trends or even really listening to us, saw a bloke on the Cambridge market flogging sweatshirts that he could personalise so they asked him to personalise a red sweatshirt with the word 'Liverpool' in bubble letters, thinking this was more or less the definition of a 'Liverpool top'. And then they bought him a kind of football game that was definitely not Subbuteo but a plastic pitch with two knobs at either end that you twisted to make the football players turn and thereby 'kick' the ball to one another. You couldn't turn them too quickly though or they came out of their slots. Needless to say my brother was less than impressed and my parents were less than impressed at his ingratitude and I remember trying to make everyone feel better and only made everyone feel worse. I retreated to my room to listen to my Undertones tape on the alarm/radio/cassette player that my parents had bought me and not got wrong at all. Still feel residual guilt that I got exactly what I wanted and my brother didn't. |
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Post by gray1720 on Apr 8, 2023 16:52:30 GMT
Oh dear... sorry, didnt mean to drag anything like that up, Kath!
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Post by Kath on Apr 8, 2023 16:59:27 GMT
Oh dear... sorry, didnt mean to drag anything like that up, Kath! Don't apologise! I've been rootling around YouTube for loud angry music from my yoof and having a marvellous time listening to The Damned, The Kinks, Elvis Costello, The Undertones and Joy Division. Good times really! |
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Post by MJB on Apr 8, 2023 17:11:43 GMT
I think you're all getting confused with the professor of robotics who was a judge on 'Robot Wars'.
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Post by gray1720 on Apr 8, 2023 17:17:05 GMT
Oh dear... sorry, didnt mean to drag anything like that up, Kath! Don't apologise! I've been rootling around YouTube for loud angry music from my yoof and having a marvellous time listening to The Damned, The Kinks, Elvis Costello, The Undertones and Joy Division. Good times really! Phew! X-Ray Spex? I'm a wee bit young for punk, but they was some bloody good music, and X-Ray Spex really stuck out when I heard them first. Plus its dead easy to have everything they ever released! |
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Post by MJB on Apr 8, 2023 17:40:04 GMT
I had two older brothers. The Damned, Stiff Little Fingers, The Dickies, and punk & new wave in general was the soundtrack to my teenage years.
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Post by willien on Apr 8, 2023 17:44:39 GMT
I am the same age as the, very recently, bereaved John Lydon and I was horrified by Punk when it was happening, took me a very long time to start to appreciate it.
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Post by daves on Apr 8, 2023 18:03:22 GMT
I've been listening again to Simon and Garfunkel. Guess I'm a bit of an aging hippie.
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Post by aitch on Apr 8, 2023 18:10:21 GMT
I guess I just thought of them as 'rock' rather than 'punk rock' but hey ho. That is still one of my favourite songs although it brings back some slightly traumatic memories. My brother was (is?) an ardent football fan and for Christmas that year he had asked for a 'Liverpool top and subbuteo'. Mum and Dad, not being the least bit interested in popular culture/football/keeping up with trends or even really listening to us, saw a bloke on the Cambridge market flogging sweatshirts that he could personalise so they asked him to personalise a red sweatshirt with the word 'Liverpool' in bubble letters, thinking this was more or less the definition of a 'Liverpool top'. And then they bought him a kind of football game that was definitely not Subbuteo but a plastic pitch with two knobs at either end that you twisted to make the football players turn and thereby 'kick' the ball to one another. You couldn't turn them too quickly though or they came out of their slots. Needless to say my brother was less than impressed and my parents were less than impressed at his ingratitude and I remember trying to make everyone feel better and only made everyone feel worse. I retreated to my room to listen to my Undertones tape on the alarm/radio/cassette player that my parents had bought me and not got wrong at all. Still feel residual guilt that I got exactly what I wanted and my brother didn't. Not a Dukla Prague Away kit?  |
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Post by peterba on Apr 8, 2023 18:12:56 GMT
I've been listening again to Simon and Garfunkel. Guess I'm a bit of an aging hippie.
They are nothing short of compulsory listening, Dave. |
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Post by willien on Apr 8, 2023 18:21:20 GMT
I've been listening again to Simon and Garfunkel. Guess I'm a bit of an aging hippie.
They are nothing short of compulsory listening, Dave. Which seems to be the approriate time to post this link. My thanks to Kate for putting it on facebook some time ago. Possibly PS's greatest song performed by a US heavy metal band called Disturbed. This is not a pisstake. David Draimen can really sing and this version Skelps S&G.
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Post by Kath on Apr 8, 2023 18:53:50 GMT
I guess I just thought of them as 'rock' rather than 'punk rock' but hey ho. That is still one of my favourite songs although it brings back some slightly traumatic memories. My brother was (is?) an ardent football fan and for Christmas that year he had asked for a 'Liverpool top and subbuteo'. Mum and Dad, not being the least bit interested in popular culture/football/keeping up with trends or even really listening to us, saw a bloke on the Cambridge market flogging sweatshirts that he could personalise so they asked him to personalise a red sweatshirt with the word 'Liverpool' in bubble letters, thinking this was more or less the definition of a 'Liverpool top'. And then they bought him a kind of football game that was definitely not Subbuteo but a plastic pitch with two knobs at either end that you twisted to make the football players turn and thereby 'kick' the ball to one another. You couldn't turn them too quickly though or they came out of their slots. Needless to say my brother was less than impressed and my parents were less than impressed at his ingratitude and I remember trying to make everyone feel better and only made everyone feel worse. I retreated to my room to listen to my Undertones tape on the alarm/radio/cassette player that my parents had bought me and not got wrong at all. Still feel residual guilt that I got exactly what I wanted and my brother didn't. Not a Dukla Prague Away kit?  |
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Post by gray1720 on Apr 8, 2023 20:48:09 GMT
They are nothing short of compulsory listening, Dave. Which seems to be the approriate time to post this link. My thanks to Kate for putting it on facebook some time ago. Possibly PS's greatest song performed by a US heavy metal band called Disturbed. This is not a pisstake. David Draimen can really sing and this version Skelps S&G.
THAT is how to do a cover. Make it your own, nothing annoys me more music-wise (hell, even Radio 1 are in my good books for playing Wet Leg all summer) than bands that do dead-straight covers that are hard to tell from the original. Why bother? A few other honorable mentions for Siouxsie's The Passenger and The Bangles S&G cover Hazy Shade of Winter, straight covers but in the bands own style. Thetes a Kate Bush cover by someone quite rocky to but I'm damned if I can remember who or find it, it's not the Placebo one, it's one that half way through you suddenly twig the lyric and think flip me, it's a Kate Bush song! |
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Post by gray1720 on Apr 8, 2023 20:50:04 GMT
******' 'ell, it's Fred Titmus! |
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Post by adriansadlier on Apr 8, 2023 22:37:12 GMT
The rule that disallows you from being judgmental is the reason such ignorance persists. Well, not really. I am allowed to point out mistakes and my role is to guide people to better performance with the application of study skills and reasonable adjustments or assistive technology as required. As I said in my other post it's really the ones who are 'at it' that are the most annoying. For some of my students, getting to their classes at all is a big achievement and I have had to amend my perception of what counts as 'a win' in a lot of cases. Yes, it would be great if I could tell you that all my students will be leaving college this year with HNCs or whatever and progressign on to work or university. But not all of them will. Some will have gained a bit of self confidence or picked up a skill they didn't have before. Some will go on to uni or work. Some may just be about ready to accept that they need more help. And I will feel quietly proud, in spite of the spelling/grammar, to have had a bit of hand in that. In the last few weeks I've had to make two safeguarding reports, set someone up with a disguised app that they can use to note instances of domestic violence to take to a custody hearing, listen to a compulsive liar telling me the tallest tales you've ever heard, hear someone tell me they are suicidal, report instances of self-harm, proofread essays on topics I know nothing about, sit in a disciplinary meeting where my student was the aggressor, congratulate a student who at the start of the year worried she was 'too thick' to do her course but has now been given an offer at Stirling University for a degree, make endless appointments for another student who just kept not turning up, try to keep a parent from completely taking over their adult child's life to the extent they wanted to sit in the classroom and show the progression board which bits of someone's essay were actually my work. It's exhausting! Hi Kath, normally my "gut" reaction to your initial post would be to condemn the ineptitude of your students, the academic system that has failed them, and probably "absent", "misguided" or even "failed" parenting. But I held my whist and read all of the posts. Now, I think I understand. Now I see an educator, part time (full time even) social worker, safe haven for vulnerable people, whom society has failed. And I think I can guess at your frustration, and even despair, against the relentless waves of problems, issues and difficulties coming at you. Yet you presist. You are one of the few in this self centred "modern" society, who care enough to make a difference. Someone who experiences and shares your student's pain, so you can ease it somewhat. Take the victories, whether the small wins or the (rare) big ones. And by all means, let go a little every now and then and have a good rant. When you can't bear the pressure, let off a little steam. It's better than leaving the kitchen - you are feeding souls! I could never do what you do, but I admire it very much. As an Aspie, I tend to float above most of the complexities of emotional life. Logic is so much easier. But what you do is so much more valuable. Thanks for sharing. Adrian |
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