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Post by John Farrell on Jan 20, 2023 23:14:33 GMT
on Thursday, saying she no longer has the energy to continue - the volume of vile rightwing hate she receives contributed to this. The Labour Party will tomorrow appoint Chris Hipkins as leader, and PM. This is Chris... Attachment Deleted |
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Post by willien on Jan 20, 2023 23:47:32 GMT
Yep. IMO - a sad day for NZ. IMO - a sad day for world polotics.
A beacon of hope that government could be human and caring.
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Post by steveandthedogs on Jan 21, 2023 6:41:04 GMT
One of the the better PM's.
I hope your next is as good.
S
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Post by JohnY on Jan 21, 2023 20:21:44 GMT
Look on the bright side. She has resigned while she was on top of her game. She was not pushed. You cannot say that about any UK PM during my lifetime. I am not a supporter. She was a bit too left wing for my tastes but that doesn't matter; I am not from NZ and my opinion is irrelevant.
I wish her well for her future.
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Post by adriansadlier on Jan 22, 2023 2:03:38 GMT
Sorry guys, but I disagree entirely!
For me, she was one of the most vile politicians on the planet, in the pocket of the WEF and WHO.
A leader who promoted and actively encouraged the vilification and demonisation of a section of society, who because of their choice with regard to a medical decision, as protected by the Nuremberg Code, were cast as second class citizens, deprived of their employment and civil rights, detained and ostracised, deserves no support. In fact, I believe she should be hauled before the courts and made answer for her crimes upon humanity.
She resigned before she was kicked out by the New Zealand electorate at the next election. She is in damage limitation mode.
I just regret that she will not serve time for the crimes against humanity that she has committed. And gender has nothing to do with this, in case anybody raises this as a false issue.
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Post by John Farrell on Jan 22, 2023 2:30:45 GMT
Sorry guys, but I disagree entirely! For me, she was one of the most vile politicians on the planet, in the pocket of the WEF and WHO. A leader who promoted and actively encouraged the vilification and demonisation of a section of society, who because of their choice with regard to a medical decision, as protected by the Nuremberg Code, were cast as second class citizens, deprived of their employment and civil rights, detained and ostracised, deserves no support. In fact, I believe she should be hauled before the courts and made answer for her crimes upon humanity. She resigned before she was kicked out by the New Zealand electorate at the next election. She is in damage limitation mode. I just regret that she will not serve time for the crimes against humanity that she has committed. And gender has nothing to do with this, in case anybody raises this as a false issue. Are you serious? That reads like the most ridiculous conspiracy theory rubbish. |
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Post by squeamishossifrage on Jan 22, 2023 9:12:02 GMT
Sorry guys, but I disagree entirely! For me, she was one of the most vile politicians on the planet, in the pocket of the WEF and WHO. A leader who promoted and actively encouraged the vilification and demonisation of a section of society, who because of their choice with regard to a medical decision, as protected by the Nuremberg Code, were cast as second class citizens, deprived of their employment and civil rights, detained and ostracised, deserves no support. In fact, I believe she should be hauled before the courts and made answer for her crimes upon humanity. She resigned before she was kicked out by the New Zealand electorate at the next election. She is in damage limitation mode. I just regret that she will not serve time for the crimes against humanity that she has committed. And gender has nothing to do with this, in case anybody raises this as a false issue. I presume you are referring to New Zealand's response to the Covid-19 pandemic. If so, then the reference to the Nuremberg Code is hardly germane, as that is specifically for medical research on humans, and by the time the the various vaccines became publicly available they were well past the research phase, and their efficacy and shortcomings were well documented and available in the public domain. The second issue is a moral one. Should a minority, who do not take self-protective measures against the disease, be permitted to mingle with the majority who do take those measures. In a democracy, the answer is clearly no, they should not. This policy is supported by the Bloomberg Resilience results, which places NZ at the top, world wide as being the best in coping with the pandemic, and also shows one of the lowest deaths per thousand on the planet. The suggestion, in the light of all available statistics, that the policy of protecting the majority at the expense of some minor freedoms of the minority during a global pandemic is a crime against humanity does not bear scrutiny. |
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Post by daves on Jan 22, 2023 9:49:49 GMT
Sorry guys, but I disagree entirely! For me, she was one of the most vile politicians on the planet, in the pocket of the WEF and WHO. A leader who promoted and actively encouraged the vilification and demonisation of a section of society, who because of their choice with regard to a medical decision, as protected by the Nuremberg Code, were cast as second class citizens, deprived of their employment and civil rights, detained and ostracised, deserves no support. In fact, I believe she should be hauled before the courts and made answer for her crimes upon humanity. She resigned before she was kicked out by the New Zealand electorate at the next election. She is in damage limitation mode. I just regret that she will not serve time for the crimes against humanity that she has committed. And gender has nothing to do with this, in case anybody raises this as a false issue. I'm not sure that far right drivel is deserving of a reply. |
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Post by squeamishossifrage on Jan 22, 2023 10:08:57 GMT
I'm not sure that far right drivel is deserving of a reply. No, it should be addressed, with logic and evidence, or else it becomes pernicious. |
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Post by JohnY on Jan 22, 2023 10:52:07 GMT
I'm not sure that far right drivel is deserving of a reply. No, it should be addressed, with logic and evidence, or else it becomes pernicious. I agree. All too often debate is shut down. Look what is happening within our universities and other institutions. |
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Post by daves on Jan 22, 2023 11:13:31 GMT
I'm not sure that far right drivel is deserving of a reply. No, it should be addressed, with logic and evidence, or else it becomes pernicious. Yes, you're right of course. I was, somewhat hastily, refering to that specific post. My apologies. |
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Post by kate on Jan 22, 2023 11:57:51 GMT
I criticised our Government for being slow off the mark initially, not testing at airports etc, and dragging their heels on measures to protect those caring for others by being very slow to help health care workers, Care Homes and their protection. The deaths in Care Homes was totally unacceptable. Measures to protect individuals was taken to extreme in New Zealand and I have to say appeared very much a close the door and bolt it method. It was inevitable that the result would be many adversely affected and others happy to be so protected. Sooner or later, all would become exposed to the virus, so choosing that moment was her decision.
As someone who was refused the vaccines I held myself responsible for keeping myself and others as safe as possible.
It wasn't easy and my health and mental health suffered. Sometimes I felt like just walking in a crowd, unprotected, to get it over with.
Jacinda chose her path and New Zealanders were protected to a large degree. She did what she felt was right for the majority.
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Post by willien on Jan 22, 2023 14:36:46 GMT
On the bright side, being paraded naked through the streets and pelted with excrement was not suggested. I am in a +ve mood today.
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Post by Chester PB on Jan 23, 2023 22:18:08 GMT
Sorry guys, but I disagree entirely! For me, she was one of the most vile politicians on the planet, in the pocket of the WEF and WHO. A leader who promoted and actively encouraged the vilification and demonisation of a section of society, who because of their choice with regard to a medical decision, as protected by the Nuremberg Code, were cast as second class citizens, deprived of their employment and civil rights, detained and ostracised, deserves no support. In fact, I believe she should be hauled before the courts and made answer for her crimes upon humanity. She resigned before she was kicked out by the New Zealand electorate at the next election. She is in damage limitation mode. I just regret that she will not serve time for the crimes against humanity that she has committed. And gender has nothing to do with this, in case anybody raises this as a false issue. Oh dear . . . somebody has been rattling cages again. |
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Post by John Farrell on Jan 25, 2023 3:10:04 GMT
Chris Hipkins was sworn in as PM today. The reception at Government House included his favourite food. Attachment Deleted |
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